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dragondead9 t1_j503n8n wrote

I hope people who consume fish see the errors of their way. There are alternative calorie sources for fish that come from plants that will eliminate/reduce these bycatch problems. Unless of course you fish eaters want the oceans to be depleted of mammals and fish…. But you tell me. Actions speak louder than words.

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Simple_Opossum OP t1_j5071je wrote

I don't think you have to be so black and white. There are many millions of people worldwide who depend on marine resources to survive. Yes, industrial fishing is a HUGE problem. But, there are sustainable fishing practices that reduce bycatch and actively work to prevent dangerous ghost nets, entanglements, environmental damage, etc.

I think the most reasonable and responsible approach is to do your research and select ethical products. Or, if you so choose, eliminate fish and other seafood from your site entirely.

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dragondead9 t1_j509def wrote

You can’t verify your food intake sources 100% of the time, same goes for plant-based diets. There are millions of products which are derivatives of fish sources, like fish sauces and gelatin. Unless you live off the grid and catch all your own food and abstain from all commercial products, you will eventually consume non-sustainable fish products or byproducts. All that to say, it’s easier to remove fish from one’s diet entirely as most people aren’t going to be able to live in your rugged, off grid sustainable food environment.

And for bias, Plant based food sources have their problems too. But there is a severe drop in ecological destruction caused by plant-based agriculture compared to animal-based agriculture. I’d rather take my chances with plants and at least attempt to reduce my harm in a way that is cost friendly for everyone (have you seen the cost of sustainable fish and animal products? A 20lb bag of beans costs like $15)

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Simple_Opossum OP t1_j50qplr wrote

Sure, and I'm not arguing against vegetarianism, I think that's a great choice. I've been on and off a vegetarian diet for some time. It is definitely the most sustainable and safest option. But many people are very opposed to the idea for one reason or another, so I believe that encouraging a wide range of sustainable practices within their lifestyle is a good place to start. As more and more plant-based options become available, hopefully a lot more people will come around to the idea that vegetarianism is easy, affordable, ethical, and sustainable. That said, as someone who believes all these things, sometimes it's easier said than done - it takes effort, which is a barrier to overcome.

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