I’m glad they will face sack just like their victims had to

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They should be in prison, not just fired.

What, they’re going to sack Bastard Dave(Carrick), Wayne (Couzens)the rapist, Mark (Lindow)the rapist sex pest……..?

Close ranks boys, can’t be having anyone think we’re a bunch of cunts now.

As an afterthought, is this a higher % of sex pests than the church?

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In the US, domestic abuse is required to be a cop.

They gave the sack now they risk receiving one themselves. A proper British teabag I believe they call it.

If you don't hit your husband/wife, how can you be trusted to shoot a dog kid criminal? ^^/s

You joke, but I watched a documentary about police training in utah; and the trainer literally said "if you can't shoot a grandma or a little kid who has a gun, you need to find another job." It was so insane.

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The abilities to be aggressive, racist, obey shitty orders, hit and arrest, and abuse those in your personal life are the requirements to be a police officer. World wide.

When are these people going to wise up and start hiring police officers who are not as fucked up mentally as those they are trying to arrest and investigate.

These guys definitely earned a face sack. Glad there's some justice happening, rather than them getting PTO as they do in the States.

Around 5% of the clergy are nonces which is in line with the general populace, not sure of the percentage for police

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I can't believe I'm going to say something that sounds like it's in defence of a churches, but isn't that 5% specifically the Catholic Church, and isn't it 5% have been accused?

Clergy is a pretty broad term and there are lots of denominations/sects where child abuse just isn't a major issue. And despite what reddit often loves to think, an accusation is just that. An accusation.

Fair enough, thanks for extrapolating.

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They also pretty much tell you to assume every kid and grandma has a gun. Plus qualified immunity makes the response to that assumption pretty safe (for a cop using lethal force), even if he’s wrong

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If a cop does a bad shoot, they just plant a gun next to the body.

Imagine trying to prove accusations with a closed community…

Police being held accountable? There’s gotta be a catch.

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And that changes what?

Your reply apparently was a lesson in apologetics,

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So you’re one of those who prefer feelings to facts huh.

Drag this site down even deeper into the circle-jerking misinformation to better support your desired views like a Republican if that makes you happy, I guess.

Expecting people to talk about facts not feelings is not apologetics. But if you feel like it is, I guess that makes it true!

That 5% is just the latest propaganda by the church

What the hell are you on? Leave your sanctimony at home.

You don’t agree that certain organisations suppress bad press? be it the Police, the Pope, indeed any such group

Yes they’re accusations, do you not think any of those are warranted?

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Of course they do. But claiming 5% of clergy are pedos because 5% of Catholic clergy have been accused of abuse… that’s just a lie. You are happy to be a liar just because it suits your agenda? You do you but I prefer not to live my life with a bit more honesty.

You undermine your case with your dishonesty.

I'll take "Things that Happen in Europe but not America" for $300 Alex. Daily double!

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Send them across the pond! They're well qualified applicants for American cops

You carry on bolstering their good name.

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You carry on smearing innocent people. (And don't try to twist that into me saying they're all innocent. They're not. They're just not all guilty like you claim. Hell, most of them aren't even Catholic.)

Also, who are "they" exactly? A lot of clergy do have good names, and support and help their local communities without diddling kids. I don't have a religious bone in my body but I don't let my lack of belief tarnish my opinion of all clergy, of all denominations and sects. Only an idiot would do that.

Crazy how the us/world Reddit news feed is half imperialist apologia and the rest is how fucked police officers are. Hopefully people start to see the connection

With a past history of denial of any wrongdoing, fuck, downright suppression of abuse.

If only 5% are charged you know damn well it’s at least double that.

Shit, you’re not allowed to question the rhetoric.

You're still acting like this 5% figure applies to all clergy. You do understand that it doesn't, right?

And you're still talking as if "clergy" = "Catholic." You realise it doesn't, right? It doesn't even mean "Christian."

What exactly do you think I'm arguing here? Did you even read my original comment?

Do you even understand that Catholicism is not synonymous with Christianity, and that Christianity is broken into many different denominations and sects?

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It’s looking like the churches around the world have just as much a mass child raping problem as the Catholics.

What the Evangelicals get away with doing to children is far more terrifying Mainly because they try so much harder to hide it.

I would never let a child anywhere near an Evangelical, accused or not.

Hey fellow Americans.....this is awesome news. Cops are shitty everywhere, not just in the U.S.

If you're nervous about losing your job as a public servant because you're a convicted sex offender, you might be a piece of shit.

In America, it's a fair assumption

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...I'm unsure if this is a rape joke or a nod to the victims being fired while the perpetrator gets kept on.

At least cops in other countries get fired and possibly even punished for being shitty.

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I mean its the UK. They have their problems, but generally they do like to hold the police to account.

I mean if their found guilty of a criminal investigation, their go to prison.

I’m sure they could always get a job across the pond.

Isn’t the UK government just now trying to pass legislation to allow police to crack-down on protesters? And isn’t it being criticized by other nations and Amnesty International as an “abuse of power” and an “affront to democracy”? That same UK?

Northern Ireland would like to have a word with you

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_police_brutality_in_the_United_Kingdom#Northern_Ireland

Listen, we can hold then accountable for most things, but oppressing the poor? We might as well disband the police entirely if we have to start doing that

Does that happen? Genuine question from someone used to US cops

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That's hilarious. If they regularly held them to account, there wouldn't be hundreds facing it now.

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Would you really want these people at clubs around drunk young women?

Hell, all of Ireland for quite some time. There’s a reason everyone tells you not to order a “black and tan” in an Irish bar.

I mean, you can…you just might not leave said bar with the same number of teeth you walked in with.

I think that’s their point.

Y'all are way too semantic for me. But I gotta say, the whole "it's a closed community" and "what does that change" is just dumb AF. It changes reporting. You see some rando steal from a little food truck operation when they're not looking and you might say something. It's shitty.

But you see your struggling to eat family "grab a little something to stay alive" and you're probably not saying shit. Assuming it's a family you love.

When the cops know the others are planting drugs, they don't say shit. "Back the blue" or "thin blue line" take your pick.

So when a church (any church, I don't give a fuck) has respected members being accused, if anyone knows anything they're afraid to be rejected if they speak up. So they don't. And now your witnesses are gone.

So it stands to reason, that IF there's an average of 5% of members being accused (seems high but I'm not checking, it's not important) then it's nearly impossible the actual number isn't more than that. Because they don't turn on each other. It's "us" vs "them". The more personal the "us" is the more you overlook.

Dude put the /s, some insane asshole is gonna think you're serious.

I think it's both. It's punny.

Oh right. Thought they meant the job market for bouncers would be saturated by laid-off coppers, thus hard for folks to get a job.

Actually, after rereading it you might be right. 🤷‍♂️

I never claimed abuse wasn't rampant in the Catholic Church. I do not deny it's a closed community. I just think it's incredibly stupid and counterproductive to pretend like it's something rampant in all faiths, denominations and sects. Harping on and on about the Catholic Church isn't going to change that, just reinforce my point.

At this point, it's not even a surprise hearing news like this. And that is worrisome.

Thankfully, law enforcement is not the type of occupation that qualifies one for a work visa.

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In the UK we call that a joke.

Strange since DV is a prerequisite to becoming a cop.

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The one in the same.

I mean that's a different issues all together. The public like to hold the police to account for breaking the law. But what do you do when the bent government insists on rewriting the law?

Yeah, that's fair enough.

Why not? Everyone's got to offend a first time don't they? And its not like they can do anything about it until someone actually makes a complaint about it.

Yeah, there aren't many cases where their found guilty of a criminal investigation that doesn't end with them going to prison.

Unless said crime was something minor that doesn't come with a prison sentence. Even then they still lose their job and are banned from all forms of law enforcement within the country.

Only in America.

Don’t argue with this nob, he doesn’t know of what he speaks.

clergy

He thinks I’ve got a hard on for Catholics

That's so cool and normal of you

I mean, where does the sarcasm end and where does getting rid of the police start?