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Dampware t1_j5lkqqz wrote

Reply to comment by LimitedSwimmer in FDA wants to simplify the use and updating of Covid-19 vaccines by joshemerson

Yeah, but us sane people will appreciate it.

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[deleted] t1_j5lwtns wrote

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CyberGrandma69 t1_j5mmiuq wrote

The past few years have shown us a shocking number of people know approximately shit all about viruses and immunity

The amount of times I've had to explain to grown adults with (supposedly) functioning brains that "natural immunity" isn't better because getting sick hurts you on a cellular level is mind melting

People are almost actively now not making the connection in their heads that a virus destroys your cells and a vaccine is a buffer against that destruction. We really need like an intro to bio refresher or something so people remember how their goddamn cells work.

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georgeBarkley12 t1_j5n92h1 wrote

How long do each of the shots last on average?

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dvrzero t1_j5og7f2 wrote

the manufacturers originally said 1 year, but that slowly backslid to news reports of "shots 3 times a year". For all the talk of "boosting for variants" the latest boosters are for omicron. The claim is that this also may help with XBB and kraken and the 2 headed dog variant (not cerebus, but the brother of cerebus: Orthrus).

So to tl;dr it: between 4 and 9 months. But the variants are coming about as often if not more often.

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georgeBarkley12 t1_j5ogjhh wrote

Appreciate the insight, do you know what rate folks are boosted at this point? I recall seeing data about vax rates from early on but not sure what % are up to date with their boosters

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dvrzero t1_j5oh7fy wrote

it depends on who you ask, the CDC says 60% fully vaxxed (either the single shot or the 2 shots) and 15% are additionally boosted. 200mm and 50mm, respectively.

Not sure about global statistics but some sites say up to 30% of populations have boosters.

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georgeBarkley12 t1_j5ohqtn wrote

To me since the vaccines came out so long ago and we’re widely available, I can’t imagine many people still have the immune benefits from their original shots. At this point it would be that 15% of people protected no?

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certainlyforgetful t1_j5na9ap wrote

Right now it's more about which variant the vaccine protects against & not how long your immunity lasts.

Because we still have a very high infection rate, partly due to poor vaccination rates, we'll likely continue to see new variants outrun the time the vaccine remains effective.

That said, even a vaccine that doesn't specifically protect against the current variant will provide meaningful protection from a severe case (hospitalization, death, etc)

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georgeBarkley12 t1_j5nasks wrote

Their is no average as to how long protection is suppose to last?

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certainlyforgetful t1_j5ndp8a wrote

It gets kinda complicated - mostly around what we consider “effective”. Does that mean prevents infection entirely, or does that mean prevents hospitalization, etc.

Here’s a good resource:

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/how-long-will-coronavirus-vaccine-last

At the end of the day, if the CDC says you’re eligible for a booster then the booster offers significant advantages in terms of current protection.

Right now new variants are posing more of a risk than our immune systems “forgetting” about your last shot. Thankfully, vaccine manufacturers are releasing targeted vaccines for these variants which is what you’ll be vaccinated with if you get a booster.

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georgeBarkley12 t1_j5oegrq wrote

Thank for this info, I’d also be curious as to what % of people are up to date on their boosters

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certainlyforgetful t1_j5n9t05 wrote

>Don’t folks know about waning immunity?!?!?

Simple. They don't care.

Well until they get sick, and then they say something like "well at least now I got it over with".

It'll take a few seasons of being reinfected before any of them start realizing that scheduling 15 minutes out of their day & a few hours of feeling shitty is better than the alternative.

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