Sidewinder702 t1_j3ro5bz wrote on January 10, 2023 at 4:46 PM

Reply to comment by squidking78 in A family finds swastikas in the lawn as antisemitism surges by Shaul_Ishtov

Well I’m just pointing out Israel isn’t that unique when it comes to that. There are a lot of ethnostates in the world, and despite what values the western world preaches it still Allies itself with many of them .

squidking78 t1_j3ruknh wrote on January 10, 2023 at 5:25 PM

They’re entirely different to Israel anyway, with Israel being a nation of immigrants. The only immigrant based ethnostate in the world. At least the other nations you cite just exist there because the people via being there are “a nation of blood”. As xenophobic as they may be currently.

Only the West has nations based on ideas rather than “blood”. And Israel isn’t one of them. That needs to change.

Sidewinder702 t1_j40pdo9 wrote on January 12, 2023 at 10:52 AM

Actually that’s not entirely true. Israel allows Jewish converts of any ethnicity as far as I understand. Also I know a lot of the countries I referred to like Poland and Vietnam allow people with those ethnicities to come and live there and get citizenship easily. Which isn’t true for other people.

squidking78 t1_j42im3o wrote on January 12, 2023 at 6:56 PM

The only prerequisites that modern, less bigoted states have on immigrating is skill, familial connection and humanitarian need.

Not ethnicity, religion or race.

When you look at the nation without the marketed special status by the Israel lobby, the west would not support such bigoted ways by a country that ever deemed itself as part of their grouping.

Be a nation, not an enclave. Demographics are against it anyway, so make it an idea, not a racial identity.

Sidewinder702 t1_j45x2ek wrote on January 13, 2023 at 11:39 AM

Don’t forget about money. In many western countries you can basically buy citizenship by investing a lot of money so it’s not all altruistic. Also it isn’t just the Israeli lobby that makes the US favor Isreal. The US likes having an ally in the Middle East that will do what it wants. It’s the same with Saudi Arabia but even more so with Israel.