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Factsaretheonlytruth t1_j2zooa0 wrote

Jews seem to be safer in Germany than the US today.

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MaracujaBarracuda t1_j2zpkf8 wrote

The far right is rising in Germany too now.

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johndoe30x1 t1_j2zxlfx wrote

Don’t worry, the German government is…oh they’re funding undercover cops who are all actually double agents who agree with the neo-Nazis more than the Bundespolizei? Oops

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atlantis_airlines t1_j2zwuiu wrote

What is particularly telling is that arguably the safest place for Jews in the early 20th century was Germany. At that time Jews held many respectable positions with some becoming household names not just at home but abroad. This didn't mean antisemitism didn't exist, but Germany was far more accepting of Jews than other countries were....until they weren't.

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Xenjael t1_j30k3gi wrote

It's why most of us with fam that survived the holocaust are taught to have back up plans, and to be aware our neighbors and friends can always turn on us in an instant.

I'm in Israel now. The peace of mind is great.

Cause truth is Americans are the same. When I worked at Panera I was pushed in an oven by one of the bakers as a 'joke' and their management then fired me.

Total shitshow back in the states.

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WildYams t1_j30srqi wrote

There was a fantastic documentary released by Ken Burns a few months ago that everyone should watch called The US and the Holocaust which very much gives context to how Americans were reacting to what was happening to the Jews in Nazi Germany and how reluctant (or even loathe) most Americans were to help or even listen to what was going on. It also talks a lot about the large amount of Nazi sympathy in America at the time.

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CedarWolf t1_j30sne1 wrote

> have back up plans

I've always been fascinated by the ways people hid and modified their homes to hide stuff, either their families' possessions or their family members themselves.

But considering actually adding such hideaways onto my actual home feels insane. And what am I going to keep in there? Pokemon cards?

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phrostbyt t1_j31nrbn wrote

passport, social security card, birth certificate, handgun, ammo, and a letter from your Rabbi

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doubleshortbreve t1_j32mnhd wrote

Some kind of formal certificate signed by a rabbi showing participation in a lifecycle event is great to have as well. If you are a Jew by choice or have one in your fam, be sure your conversion certificate is signed by at least one rabbi who has had conversions accepted in Israel, although they are finally getting better about this. Also the kids! Bnai Mitzvah certs, brit milah/brit bat certificates, whatever is available to you. Keep in one place that you can stick in a suitcase fast. Hard copies of all of your prescriptions, and backup supply. If you can? Burner phone. - with love to my fam from your internet bubbie

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Tersphinct t1_j32hxhr wrote

I don’t get it. Why were you fired if you were the one who got pushed?

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Xenjael t1_j35voxg wrote

The longer story is I complained. I was then transfered to a nearby location.

A shift manager there ended up being palestinian sympathetic, and would question me about the legitimacy of the holocaust having happened when he found out why I transferred.

Eventually I threw a basket of pagers at him, and that was it. They gave me a hearing, fired me under their no jerks policy, and rest is history.

I did ask my grandfather who survived aushwitz what I should do and he advised to there wasn't a right thing for me to do in response.

I suppose I could have sued, looking back.

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rjkardo t1_j30dvlh wrote

This is the sort of true/scary history that should be taught.

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xfd696969 t1_j30jmwu wrote

Yep, glad I'm in Israel now. People can say whatever they want to say, but I don't need to worry about keeping my ethnicity a secret because people doing shit like this.

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IamToddDebeikis t1_j30sdsz wrote

I thought about moving to Israel because I desperately want to get out of the US but it seems very expensive. I also am not a fan of how rude Israelis are.

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xfd696969 t1_j30vhmi wrote

We aren't rude, motherfucker!

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Tersphinct t1_j32ia8c wrote

Last time I went, I had an asshole try to skip the line where you get your passport stamped coming into the country. I wasn’t even in Israel proper, and I already had to deal with a jackass after 30 hours of traveling. I just about lost my shit.

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tippytep t1_j31dqhf wrote

If you had family that escaped an EU country during WW2, you could look into obtaining citizenship from that country. It takes some research and paperwork but I was granted Austrian citizenship but could now live in an EU country.

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seanhoran t1_j304rnw wrote

It was the same pre ww2.. America was fascist af.. Hitler built operations around Henry Ford methods .

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Kataphractoi t1_j30jm0l wrote

Also sent observers to study American methods of eugenics.

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auderita t1_j31bf5o wrote

Also studied America's blueprints for concentration camps (Japanese internment, First People reservations, etc.)

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PointlessGiant t1_j32d0pc wrote

Dude, Japanese internment camps did not predate Nazi death camps. How would they have based theirs off of things that hadn't happened yet?

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