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icdmize t1_j6l6esc wrote

Reply to comment by PanzerKomadant in Ukraine plans $550 million drone investment in 2023 - defense minister by MijTinmol

I've been downvoted to oblivion and so will you so here's an upvote and a question. Who ultimately gets paid in the purchase/ manufacture of these drones? I'm assuming China via our military industrial complex.

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PanzerKomadant t1_j6l7tpd wrote

I’d reason that it’ll be the Chinese and the western Military Complex. China will be an easy source to by cheaper resources to build these drones and the industrial complex in the west will get contracted out to provided their expertise to Ukraine. Really only the Chinese and the MIC benefit from this. The US just writes massive checks out to Ukraine for defenses but it’s up to Ukraine how to spend it.

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icdmize t1_j6la6rm wrote

Apologies. I'm from the West so I referred to it as OUR MIC. If the Ukraine's previous actions are repeated then they'll be immediately flying these drones into Russian buildings. That's not great either. What do I know though?

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PanzerKomadant t1_j6lbyxj wrote

Ukraine naturally would want to escalate the war because to them it would force Russia to the negotiating table in Ukrainians favor. But most of Russia, contrary to western belief, silently support the war. All the Russian anti-war protesters are a massive minority of Russians.

The sad reality is Ukraine has almost full mobilized and is suffering from manpower shortage and desertion among the lower ranks. Heck, last week their government increased the punishment of desertion. You don’t do that if you are not suffering for such a situation.

Russia meanwhile began their mobilization late, and it hasn’t even peaked yet. In a war of attrition Russia will come out as the winner, bloodied, but it’ll get its way.

Ukrainian support only lasts as long as western leadership is willing to support them. So what happens if say Trump gets re-elected? He’s happily axe all that support and leave them out to dry.

China is content to sit on the sideline. They might not say it, but they are still trading with the Russians and they are learning valuable military lessons from this war. This war will most likely dictate their policy going forward with Taiwan and the likes.

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