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So? Do it as a precaution. How long does he want this pandemic to go on for? Pretty sure China didn't think it would get this horrible again either but there they are.

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I'm unsure what you mean, this is clearly another huge wave of covid cases over in China because of the new variant. I did hear that alot of people were given fake vaccines before which is why it's so bad now. I'm unsure how it didn't count as it getting bad again when they had their original outbreak in 2020 under control farly quickly compared to other countries. It's chaos ATM with so many new cases and deaths per day there now.

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>No, it's not another huge wave for them. It's the first big wave for China because they isolated this whole time.

So it's another wave then. I haven't heard anyone including experts say this isn't a wave for China.

China COVID wave could kill one million people, models predict

Experts worry China's COVID-19 wave could spur new variant

>Omicron is nothing new at this point which is why Australia is not requiring testing of incoming travelers.

Omicron hasn't been the dominant strain for a few months now. the new strains are much much much more contagious and can hide from antibodies.

Currently, the dominant variant nationwide is BQ.1.1. "The original omicron variant is gone now," says Dr. Rupp. "Currently subvariants of omicron are circulating, including BQ.1.1, BQ.1, BA.5, BF.7 and XBB.)

Those are subvariants. Omicron is still the dominant strain. The article explains this is why Australia is not changing policy like the US and Italy.

China is learning you can't hide from Omicron.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202212/1282775.shtml

Omicron itself is a sub variant, they are all sub variant. Omicron as it was isn't the dominate strain at all. The new strains are more contagious and more deadly which is why omicron wasnt as serious. It was more contagious than Delta but not as deadly. But the new stain is more contagious and more deadly than omicron.

>The new strains are more contagious and more deadly which is why omicron wasnt as serious.

This is not what's going on at all. China is experiencing widespread COVID for the first time right now.

Responding to your edit I honestly don't trust china to self report on this lol sorry but that source isn't reliable imo because they keep lying about their case I'm general.

>This is not what's going on at all. China is experiencing widespread COVID for the first time right now.

Did you forget the start of the pandemic? The white lung x-rays were happening back then as well.

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Australia’s new government doing a lot of sucking up to China lately. Imagine letting hundreds of people into your country you know have covid and are going to infect the people you are responsible for. Some of those people will probably die.

How else are they going to lockdown the population again? They don’t even hide it anymore.

They want those wine sales bad.

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>You are scaremongering and there are no reputable source stating that there are new, more dangerous variants of COVID spreading in China currently. It's Omicron, which exposure and western vaccinations protect from serious cases.

There are several new variants right now.

https://www.livescience.com/covid-what-we-know-about-new-omicron-variant-bf-7 >But what is this new variant, and should we be worried? Although reports from China(opens in new tab) about this variant's characteristics are concerning, it doesn't appear to be growing too much elsewhere in the world. Here's what we know. >BF.7, short for BA.5.2.1.7, is a sub-lineage of the omicron variant BA.5.

>Reports from China indicate BF.7 has the strongest infection ability(opens in new tab) out of the omicron subvariants in the country, being quicker to transmit than other variants, having a shorter incubation period, and with greater capacity to infect people who have had a previous COVID infection, or been vaccinated, or both.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202211/1280588.shtml

Since this article used that website as well I will assume it's probably legit. These new variants are subvariants of Omicron but they have their own names because they aren't like the original omicron variant anymore. They mutated and are more contagious and more deadly because it can hide from vaccine antibodies. This article is a little older so I'm unsure how much it's changed since. You seem to be saying that they have the original omicron before the new mutations which isn't true.

>Omicron BF.7 has become the main strain in Beijing's latest COVID-19 flare-up, with the virus possessing the strongest infection ability across the family of Omicron sub-variants in China and posing the risk of hidden spread, causing difficulty on virus prevention and control, according to Beijing Daily on Monday, citing a Chinese medical expert.

So let’s get back to the stage of forced lockdowns so people can riot and such, sounds like a smart choice jackass. 🤦‍♂️

Edit: If untested infected people come in to the country and infect residents IT SPREADS AGAIN, if it spreads again lockdowns are put in place. Not having people required to have a negative test is stupid. What are you not picking up about this? I’m calling the PM a jackass and responding to the title OF THE POST stating no negative tests required.

omicron = variant

BA.x = subvariant

That's the convention.

>So let’s get back to the stage of forced lockdowns so people can riot and such, sounds like a smart choice jackass. 🤦‍♂️

That's literally not what this article is about. If you wanna avoid lock downs, then require people to test before coming into the country just like many countries including Australia have been doing the past 3ish years. Especially from China where people are dying in the street from covid right now because of how contagious and deadly these new strains are.

If you are frivolous with this it spreads out of control again hints lockdowns hints people losing their shit hints riots. Was that not clear to you?

Edit: I’m being downvoted because the headline says “Australia will NOT require negative tests” and I’m saying that’s stupid. What is wrong with you people? That makes zero sense

.....I've been saying it's a subvariants this whole time. You seem to not understand that the new subvariants aren't like the original omicron. omicron was the most contagious when it became the dominant strain but was less deadly than the other variants.the new subvariant that mutated from the original Omicron,however, are much more contagious than the original omicron and far deadlier than the original omicron. You suggesting that the vaccine will protect people the same way it had before is just not true. Before there was a high chance of someone not getting covid at all if they were vaccinated. Now it's just that it may keep people out of the hospital and ICU if they are vaccinated with a boosters. Most people didn't get a booster at all let alone the new boosters that just came out. But these variants have shown that they can hide from the antibodies as well. Which is why Pfizer and the like were scrambling for a better vaccine overall.

>If you are frivolous with this it spreads out of control again hints lockdowns hints people losing their shit hints riots. Was that not clear to you?

What are you talking about? if they required international travelers to tests negative before entering the country, then obviously that would help keep the spread of covid down. Which would help avoid needing to lock down again if they can preemptively stop a huge wave from happening there. They had this travel requirement before so it's not a new concept to them.

Testing incoming traveler is not lockdown…

Did we just skip the whole Wuhan situation in 2020. You know what she means, why even argue. I agree with the rest of the paragraph besides the first sentence.

Ahhhh great Albo…

Anything for a pat on the head from those whom would buy our iron ore

I wonder what kind of hold the CCP must have on the Australian government to extract that kind of concession. Not requiring tests from a place where the hospitals are overflowing is unwise.

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you sound like the jackass here, bud

Selling themselves like prostitutes, all for the almighty dollar. Imagine being so reliant on china. Woof…

Lol, you must work for the CCP. China fucking started the pandemic. This is not their "first big wave." Stop spreading misinformation.

The headline straight up says Australia will NOT require negative tests and I’m saying that’s stupid. What’s the issue here

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Wait. Aussies were authoritarian about Covid testing and isolation a year ago, and now, stats are showing the Chinese travelers are atleast 50% positive with Covid and this is ok?

Either faith in inoculations of its populace is being gambled on, or Australia has become a Chinese puppet.

Xi is up to something...

Guess I wasn't the only who thought you were against requiring negative test proof.

The first poster seemed to be saying required or not travelers should do it anyway and voluntarily not travel while infected.

I was responding to the title of the post….

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For saying it’s stupid to NOT require a negative test? How the hell does that make any sense?

I get that, now.

If untested infected people come in to the country and infect residents IT SPREADS AGAIN, if it spreads again lockdowns are put in place. Not having people required to have a negative test is stupid. What are you not picking up about this?

nah more of the tone and delivery, it's a social skills thing

Oh what ever 🙄

Probably the same hold that led the Aussie government to pursue Zero-Covid, too. They're the largest overseas owner of Australian agricultural land, but I doubt that's the cause, rather a symptom.

You haven't paid attention to what has been China's COVID experience. But you do use ad hominem, of course. Weak.

That is because their government are right-wing morons.

Australia or China?

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Never used an ad hominem. Again, stop spreading misinformation.

And you don't understand what ad hominem is. Great.

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Except the Australians government is left.

Maybe that's it because there is no logical reason not to test.

Stop spreading misinformation.

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Australia is owned by China color me shocked. Garbage.

World governments really want us under lockdown again

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I don't get it either but at the same time all of these places, if it's the same thing around(with a full blown surge) then they will blame America/Americans for it. Like they did during the 2020-2021.

Their vaccines (both Sinnophram and that other company) had, at best 50% effectiveness against the original strain of of COVID but not against the newer variants. But yes, they had a series of scandals of fake vaccines being given out in China and aboard because they were scammers. Yes, China had, in the past, major vaccines scandals that ended children up in hospital. Yes China and their legions of Wumaos (internet trolls. Some paid some were just hyper nationalists) went online with VPNs (which is illegal for the average person in China to have/use) spreading disinformation on Western vaccines, along with the Russian trolls (one of the biggest lies being, "Western vaccines won't work for Asian people" etc...) But the Chinese government had mandatory vaccinations, but with the weaker Chinese vaccines. Now that they just drop all Zero COVID policy it is spreading but it's not wrong for Western countries be cautious about this situation.

>So let’s get back to the stage of forced lockdowns so people can riot and such, sounds like a smart choice jackass. 🤦‍♂️

Oh okay, you replied to me directly so it sounded like you were disagreeing with what I said and suggesting that if they did travel requirements then that would lead to lockdowns and calling me a jackass. That's why people were downvoting you. If you were replying to the OP, then you should have made that more clear and not posted under a comment but created a stand alone comment instead. So if you read it in the context of it just bring a reply to a comment, you can probably see why people thought that.

I now see that, didn’t see it before.

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Why are they CCP Simps?

Not only this but from 1 Jan 2023 we've stopped allowing people to get Covid tests without a referral from a GP

Plus no longer any need to report a positive test. And no need to self isolate anymore.

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We had an election this year mate, the right wing party had their asses kicked.

The current government is centre left, far left communists who hate freedom by American standards.

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Shame on those bought and paid for Aussie politicians.

Vassal states gunna vassal

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Well that's a bad choice