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andygchicago t1_j00ptun wrote

Reply to comment by quitofilms in Punk band Slaves changes name to Soft Play | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site by quitofilms

OK I generally don't believe that woke stupidity truly exists and then they have to go and prove me wrong

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quitofilms OP t1_j00q3x8 wrote

I take it more as marketing than being Woke

Many venues and labels wouldn't want to deal with the social backlash of booking them

Would be a hard sell

Similar to just change the band name

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andygchicago t1_j00qiuz wrote

That’s totally fine, I get it, but highlighting a ridiculous statement like “only African Americans are allowed to used slaves” when slavery has impacted numerous cultures and races recently is absolutely, mind boggingly stupid. Maybe even a little offensive considering Australia’s history with slavery was primarily involving Aboriginal people

But also they’ve pretty much disqualified from calling themselves punk if they are seriously concerned about commercial issues

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BristolShambler t1_j01523o wrote

It’s literally a comment from some random on Facebook. It only has as much weight as we grant to it.

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andygchicago t1_j01aq61 wrote

As THEY granted to it is what I’m discussing. They highlighted it and changed their name, citing it. All I’m doing is calling them out

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UltimateThrowawayNam t1_j01zkn9 wrote

They could sincerely decide that isn’t a name they want for themselves. I mean, if they sincerely didn’t want that name but kept being called “slaves” to appeal to people then that would also be about commercialism. I don’t get the impression this is about selling more records. But maybe you have more direct insight into the band than I do.

I also think that FB comment is ridiculous but if it moved them to change their name sincerely then I would think that is “punk”. I also doubt that comment was the only thing that convinced them to reflect and change. It’s just one they felt worth sharing.

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andygchicago t1_j04tg2t wrote

But by highlighting a comment that says that only African-Americans can use the word slave, that’s erasure of the slavery the indigenous people of their home country endured. You don’t find that problematic?

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UltimateThrowawayNam t1_j06btky wrote

As I said, I thought that particular highlight was stupid and agree with you there. My main point was about how I don’t think this was a change based on commercialism and the band retains whatever “punk” status exists. And now with your new reply you ask about something else, an idea that I had addressed above. And at this point they’ve both seemed to have reached their conclusion.

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LowDownSkankyDude t1_j01v7mf wrote

There was a band in my home town called free beer, that had to change their name, cause bars wouldn't hire them. Sometimes the names are just too clever for their own good.

I imagine it's why throbbing gristle isn't the household name it should be.

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Theher0not t1_j01z12z wrote

Wasn't that what Barenaked Ladies used to be called too? At least I'm pretty sure I've read that somewhere.

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OrangeFortress t1_j00r1vs wrote

…it’s literally everywhere…. What do you mean you don’t believe it exists?

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Mischevouss t1_j00z1ol wrote

It means he don’t want to believe it exists and thus believes it doesn’t exist

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SomeOtherRandomHuman t1_j013wr1 wrote

You don’t believe one person is stupid enough to write that?

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andygchicago t1_j01dgy1 wrote

But then a punk band highlighting it and changing their name over it?

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