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passinghere OP t1_j1c3mjz wrote

> Not one English waterway, including rivers, lakes, estuaries and coastal waters is in good ecological and chemical health at present, with pollution from water treatment plants and agriculture the key sources of the damage

> Targets to clean up the majority of England’s rivers, lakes and coastal waters suffering from a cocktail of agricultural and sewage pollution have been pushed back from 2027 to 2063.

Oh look another one of those Brexit "benefits" I guess as we get to put up with shit filled seas and waterways for another 36 years while the corporation continue to send insane profits to their shareholders approx £52b in shareholder pay-outs so far iirc

> Until Brexit the UK government was signed up to the water framework directive, which required countries to make sure all their waters achieved “good” chemical and ecological status by 2027 at the latest. The UK government later reduced the target to 75% of waterways reaching the single test of good ecological status by 2027 at the latest. The target for the majority of waterways to achieve good status in both chemical and ecological tests has now been pushed back to 2063, according to the documents.

> By 2027, only 4% of waters are currently on track to be in good overall condition.

Yet the environmental agency has had their funding cut to the bone by the government because they don't want any pesky complaints against their wealthy mates running the private, for profit water companies.

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passinghere OP t1_j1c54g7 wrote

Replying to SsiSsiSsiSsi (#1,018,604)

It's hard to gauge the actual public opinion, but the vast majority of the media (mainly right wing, pro-Tory, pro-Brexit and anti-EU) would have a collective fit and go into overblown hysteria at just even thinking about this.

There was already insane headlines from the usual suspects in the media just because someone vaguely suggested considering having a slight trading agreement with the EU not that long ago and the far right section of the Tory party went into collective meltdown and shouty abuse at the idea that we "give in" to the EU or we "weaken" our "supposedly" strong trading position.

For certain far right sectors in both the government and media Brexit is still some religious concept that must never ever be spoken against or they will rain down hellfire and brimstone from on high on the person that dared to suggest reality is involved in anything like running the country.... sunny uplands with unicorns farting rainbows while singing Rule Britannia! is the only way of life that these fuckwits will ever listen to

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passinghere OP t1_j1ca91f wrote

Replying to SsiSsiSsiSsi (#1,018,916)

Yep... and not only broken beyond repair but also determined that everyone else must live only as they demand.

Really hate / sick of the way it is.

Edit... "live and let live" is a concept totally beyond their comprehension, it's dictatorship or death with them

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WoodSheepClayWheat t1_j1ciw9p wrote

Is that a natural use of "move back"? To me, further in the future is always forward.

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Dashlockhart t1_j1cxty8 wrote

Wonderful Brexit isn’t it? Independence from the EU, and they have reinvested 350millions a week into the NHS as promised ! /s

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Grow_away_420 t1_j1d7efe wrote

Man, as an American, our government won't propose or plan anything that'll take longer than 4-8 years because at some point someone else is gonna get elected to try and stop it.

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GavinZero t1_j1dbzde wrote

If you’re kicking the can 36 years farther down the road, just kill the program.

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shahzbot t1_j1didui wrote

I think most of you know this isn't Brexit at play. It's 40 odd years of electing conservative criminals into your government and allowing them to destroy your institutions and infrastructure. It started with Thatcher. This is just the reaping of what you've sown.

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Martianmanhunter94 t1_j1dptmm wrote

They may not be in good shape but at least a person can catch fish in the Thames again, even if they aren’t fit to eat.

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Winkniw t1_j1dq9x5 wrote

Ah that sweet relief of procrastination. I know it too well

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Chris_M_23 t1_j1dx6g6 wrote

As an environmental scientist, it is extremely difficult to cleanup surface water. At scale, England won’t ever be able to achieve this without the invention of some new, significantly more effective technology

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TogepiMain t1_j1dy1og wrote

Replying to SRod1706 (#1,022,985)

Anything promising Net zero any further than the end of the decade is 100% lying and definitely going to be racking up carbon debt big time up to the "switch" if it happens at all in a quarter of a century

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passinghere OP t1_j1epk7p wrote

Replying to shahzbot (#1,022,578)

> I think most of you know this isn't Brexit at play.

Which is totally contradicted by the facts already quoted

> Until Brexit the UK government was signed up to the water framework directive, which required countries to make sure all their waters achieved “good” chemical and ecological status by 2027 at the latest.

So just ignore the fact that this in particular is related to Brexit

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Art-Zuron t1_j1f6ccd wrote

Who needs paint stripper if you've got the River Thames?

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EddiesGrandson t1_j1fa7ex wrote

This will be no different than the date to get to 100% EV’s……

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shahzbot t1_j1gbb8m wrote

Replying to passinghere (#1,027,254)

Brexit itself is just a symptom of the disease. The facts as presented gave me the impression that the "powers that be" saw Brexit's cancellation of the agreement as an opportunity to kick the can down the road. If they were responsible stewards of their country, they would make an effort to keep their original commitment to undoing the harm their policies have caused over the last 40 years, regardless of the agreement.

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