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UncannyTarotSpread t1_iz7rn80 wrote

Reply to comment by weecefwew in F.B.I. asking about videos and racist website in connection with Colorado shooting by Rage_Like_Nic_Cage

I’m non-binary and it was both infuriating and revolting for that to be spewed out.

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NoodlesrTuff1256 t1_iz8cbbi wrote

Being non-binary yourself, do you think that his claims of identifying that way are bogus? And until he or his lawyers provide more concrete convincing evidence that he's genuine and not just using this to get out of hate crimes charges, should we or should we not honor his pronouns?

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Tangocan t1_iz8wdwj wrote

For what its worth, its been confirmed hes being charged for hate crimes. The non-binary claim is them further spitting in the face of the community they hate, and the victims he murdered.

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NoodlesrTuff1256 t1_izawsaq wrote

Plus the right-wingers could use his dubious claim of being nonbinary to claim that he's actually a left-leaning person in order to take the 'heat' off their side much the way they always blame Antifa people for a lot of their bad acts. All indications are that this kid shared the wingnut convictions of his MAGA politician grandpa, his mom and his loopy ex-porn star/MMA fighter dad.

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AlsoElSpazzz t1_izaceb6 wrote

I don't know why you're getting downvoted to hell and back I think it's an interesting moral question.

Personally? Coming from a trans person, I have a hard time taking the statement at face value and dont feel someone gets to claim kinship with a group of people after murdering them.

Just my 2 cents.

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NoodlesrTuff1256 t1_izasfka wrote

Neither do I although some nonbinary people have commented elsewhere on this issue that while they might feel skeptical of this guy's claims and despise the violent crimes he committed, that not honoring his claim and preferred pronouns could be a slippery slope. Or, in other words, asking him to pass a kind of 'litmus test' could lead to other nonbinary people who have done nothing wrong whatsoever to have to 'prove' themselves. A little wordy there I know but that's kind of the gist of their objections.

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AlsoElSpazzz t1_izat933 wrote

And I can see that side of it too. Like I said its a bit of a ethical cunundrum.

I still personally think murdering a bunch of lgbt people just before alters the preponderance of evidence considerations for me, but i'd probobobly aquiece in company of those who feel strongly the other way.

Can we just refer to them as "peice of shit" and be done with it? 🤣

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