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Misery_101 t1_j1y8ssp wrote

Reply to comment by wrath_of_grunge in Noah Galle, Parents, Sued Again After Crash Leaves Six Dead in Delray Beach by Spawnacus

His car was going 151Mph, the Nissan was going 39Mph There is actually a magnitude of difference from 120 to 150 in terms of energy needed.

30Mph slower, and there would have been a better chance for survival if they didn't roll.

Edit: changed horsepower to energy.

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rounder55 t1_j1zp68r wrote

Driving like this needs to be treated more so as if you are driving a weapon. Even if you don't his anyone going 150 there should be some sort of weapons or attempted "insert crime" charge. It's every bit as dangerous as firing a gun into a random house

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wrath_of_grunge t1_j1yagfu wrote

>Police say Noah Galle, 17 at the time, was speeding at 120 miles per hour in a BMW

did they say somewhere else he was going 151mph?

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Misery_101 t1_j1yas3t wrote

Yes but it looks like it was in the ealier stories, I wonder why this one is trying to say it was only 120MPH. (Maybe they meant it was a 120MPH crash)

Here is an earlier story

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wrath_of_grunge t1_j1ykoxh wrote

and my comment about being in a Honda going 120, was related to the story the OP posted.

>Police say Noah Galle, 17 at the time, was speeding at 120 miles per hour in a BMW

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Virtchoo t1_j1yy4ij wrote

Honestly, it’s not so much about horsepower as much as the gear ratios in the transmission and what the governor is set at in the vehicle. The Honda civic SI has a governor set at 147, and a whopping 205hp engine. Sure 500 could get there a bit faster, but the civic could still do it.

This all being said, there’s really no reason anybody should really need to travel at anywhere near 120 anyway. 147 and 151? Insanity. These are speeds that you need full protective gear and a car with roll cages. Not a stock car with a convertible top.

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NotUniqueOrSpecial t1_j1z2x3a wrote

> There is actually a magnitude of difference

You do not need 10x the horsepower to go an extra 30 MPH.

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bigflamingtaco t1_j1yzjl2 wrote

>There is actually a magnitude of difference from 120 to 150 in terms of horsepower needed.

An order of magnitude is not the difference here. My 250hp SHO did 144 mph runs. An order of magnitude would be a 2000hp car Vs a factory equipped Honda, not a car that can do 150mph Vs one topping out at 120, or even 100.

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Misery_101 t1_j1z2x1r wrote

The energy required is not linear. From 50 to 100 is not double the energy, so maybe horsepower alone isn't the correct term. On the flip side of that, it means the crash is far stronger than you would expect. Honestly I'm surprised the kid lived

What is a SHO? All I am seeing is a boat.

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finalremix t1_j1z4oyn wrote

It's a Ford Taurus SHO, most likely. "Super High Output". It's a Taurus with 300+ HP, for some reason.

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GaleTheThird t1_j1za55r wrote

> It's a Taurus with 300+ HP, for some reason.

People like powerful cars and Ford already had the TT V6

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Thaaaaaaa t1_j1z9uoc wrote

Why the fuck would someone want that in a Taurus? Dragrace to waffle house after church?

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atonementfish t1_j20ag8q wrote

Sleeper, plus it was more airdynamic than anything they had at the time. Honestly it was pretty sick. The Buick regal GS turbo is a similar vehicle people seem to enjoy, I guess old guy wanted a fast car his wife wanted something to go-to church in.

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Thaaaaaaa t1_j20ossm wrote

TIL they still made a Regal line. I guess I didn't know much about the Taurus, my only experience with it was getting chewed out for smoking in my best friend's dad's Taurus a million years ago, always saw it as a sensible family car/to work and back-er. That SHO looks pretty badass honestly. And apparently my state police had some Taurus cruisers. Who knew.

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urkish t1_j1z4hp2 wrote

(1/2)mv^2

So, 120 to 150 would be less than a 2x difference (144 vs 225).

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Misery_101 t1_j1z50cu wrote

That doesn't account for drag and friction. I'll admit the literal "order of magnitude" is hyperbole, but it's over 2x energy to go the 30mph more in this case.

The acceleration is greater as well on a crash

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