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Igoos99 t1_j1fcvxv wrote

Ok, I initially read that as 50 people died. 😳😳😳

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exotiah t1_j1fen32 wrote

Eventually people will learn not to drive in shit weather.

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viktor72 t1_j1flzlc wrote

Our flight last night from Columbus to Denver was canceled. My SO, love him to bits, he was so sad he couldn’t see family he wanted to drive to Cincinnati and catch another flight today. Thank God for reality checks and no we didn’t leave the house and plus the flight was canceled too anyway. It sucks but it is what it is. We were all ready to go yesterday when we got the email about the cancellation.

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fattymcelbows t1_j1fq8x1 wrote

I was supposed to be at a wedding in Chicago yesterday and drive home on I-90/80 today. Feeling like I dodged a bullet right now.

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wetmouthed t1_j1fshmd wrote

Oh my god that is the most devastating crash I have ever seen. It's horrific that 2 people have died, it honestly looks like it could have been many more.

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TabascosDad t1_j1fsxdl wrote

Poor people, such a shitty way to start the holiday weekend, not to mention everyone else who wanted to use that road having a terrible detour.

I was on that section of road coming home last December, I remember it was crazy foggy so I was only comfortable going about 40, and people were flying past me like I was standing still. Be safe out there, everyone!

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zer1223 t1_j1ftkwp wrote

Oh my god in THIS weather? Absolutely awful

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jkazama2 t1_j1fusl8 wrote

I was in this. Most terrifying moment if my life and am lucky to walk away with a neck sprain

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Okioter t1_j1g2dcy wrote

Replying to exotiah (#1,029,894)

No they will not, people are incapable of holding to safety standards on the road in winter. I had to plow into a minivan full of disabled puppies just to get on the highway. Seriously though, people just don't weight the consequences of driving in winter enough.

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CPargermer t1_j1g3652 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,031,747)

It snows in the north. People can often still drive just fine in it. I'd say people should reconsider if they really need drive during those conditions, but I don't think it's right to assume there is no reason at all.

What if someone is at work and needs to get home? What if someone works in healthcare where lives rely on them getting to work? Or any other critical industry energy, heating, plumbing, electrician, etc.?

Just fuck everyone else because there is a slim chance something bad might happen?

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jkazama2 t1_j1g597l wrote

Replying to mother_of_baggins (#1,031,745)

Thanks man. It was terrifying with the cold after the wave of hit after hit it car. Was going 40 with no cars in front of me till all of the cars and trucks broken under an underpass. Barely had time to slow down

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jkazama2 t1_j1g5epc wrote

Replying to mother_of_baggins (#1,031,745)

Thanks man. I was going 40 and bring careful and there were no cars in front of me till all of the cars were in front of me including a semi truck. Slammed into the car in front of me and got hit from behind. The airbags didn't go off since it was slow enough I guess but honestly no idea why they didn't

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jkazama2 t1_j1g6qmn wrote

Replying to HUMOROUSSSS (#1,032,631)

Emergency services were there within about 20-30 minutes. I had to wait probably another 20-30 before they were able to take me in an emergency services truck to their service stop. The scary thing after three initial crash was my back window was blown out and my window was stuck down and it got cold really fast. Luckily they had blankets they were handing out on the road and I was able to stay slightly warmer. They were of course attending to the more serious injuries near the back but they all did a fantastic job of getting us out of there

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RooMagoo t1_j1gae6h wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,031,747)

Northern Ohio is a big hub with the great lakes, 80/90 and 75 all intersecting. Do you realize the supply chain shit show that would happen if trucking in Northern Ohio shut down every time there was bad weather? Oh yeah, and those truckers can just not get paid I guess. Not to mention the people travelling that drove into the storm. Not a lot of places to stop off the highway in BFE Erie county, Ohio, and trust me, the roads off the highway there are way worse.

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CSI_Tech_Dept t1_j1gaxu6 wrote

Replying to jkazama2 (#1,032,525)

Events like that is terrifying to me. It is basically being in the wrong place at the wrong time. You could do everything correctly. Drive safe speed, and even stop on time without accident, but then somebody behind can hit you and you still could end up with injury or even dead.

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Chasingwawaterfalls OP t1_j1gbakx wrote

Replying to jkazama2 (#1,031,411)

I’m so sorry. I know most of the rhetoric is “why would anyone be out in this?”

I remember working a job that made me come in weather be damned and the option of missing that paycheck or being fired honestly felt like it was worth the risk if it meant eating and being housed.

So glad you’re okay.

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messylettuce t1_j1gbodd wrote

Can states that get iced roads more than twice a year start mandating studded tires November to May? These pileups and all the thousands of small slidey crashes just get dumber every fricken year.

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Taysir385 t1_j1gckey wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,031,747)

> There's nowhere you have to be that's more important than your life

The thing is, some of these people are driving because it is literally a matter of life and death. So while yes, there should be less people on the road, the solution is to get the government to ensure a better social safety net and worker protections for unsafe travel conditions, not to armchair quarterback the person driving to work because if he doesn't his two kids won't eat.

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RainingRabbits t1_j1gcvn6 wrote

Replying to messylettuce (#1,033,147)

Studded tires damage the road if you don't have snowpack to drive on and are illegal in some states because of this. Plus, the best tires in the world can't help you if you if you can't see the stopped vehicles in front of you.

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AdFickle677 t1_j1get37 wrote

This is the coldest air I can remember in a long time.

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Ranger_Hardass t1_j1gfka6 wrote

Replying to exotiah (#1,029,894)

I grew up in a community next the Ohio turnpike. Unfortunately, there's one or two of these pile ups every winter. People often freely exceed the 70 mph speed limit since there's no cops, only the occasional trooper watching for hazardous driving.

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AssociationNo8376 t1_j1gfzu0 wrote

I drove 50 miles today in Michigan, I have no fucking idea why i did that.

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steja89 t1_j1ggbn0 wrote

Replying to jkazama2 (#1,031,411)

My pregnant sister in law didn't make it. Julie Roth. We just got the news. Im in Columbus, snowed in, can't do anything. I thank God more were not lost. Happy to hear you made it out.

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auribus t1_j1gj9nh wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,033,210)

At least four people are dead. And highway road salt is only effective above 15°, where local temperatures have been subzero and windchill as low as -30°. Have some empathy, idiot.

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Gone213 t1_j1glsxx wrote

No one should be fucking traveling. They'll risk their lives to go visit relatives when you can celebrate the holidays at a later time. OHDOT and MDOT really fucked up by not closing the turnpike and I94 for today and maybe even tomorrow.

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Ranger_Hardass t1_j1gougb wrote

Replying to auribus (#1,034,584)

I didn't say it was specific to Christmas. Northern Ohio doesn't start to get into the snowy part of winter until January-February. Most years there isn't much if any snow on the ground at Christmas. I just said that at least one bad pile up happens every winter on the Turnpike.

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HelpImOutside t1_j1gp5x2 wrote

Replying to jkazama2 (#1,032,661)

Did you get out of your car pretty quickly or did you stay in it, to be "safe"? I've been told in that situation you definitely want to stay in your car, but it would be hard to sit there defenseless, waiting for a car to rear end you again.

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Ranger_Hardass t1_j1gqyd1 wrote

Replying to auribus (#1,034,721)

You're entitled to your opinion. I avoid the turnpike during winter weather events since I feel unsafe on a major shipping/travel route where other drivers usually speed excessively and where they assume they can drive like it's a sunny day in August. I couldn't recommend going on the turnpike during any type of bad weather.

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jkazama2 t1_j1gsfhq wrote

Replying to HelpImOutside (#1,034,709)

It is almost always safer to stay in the car in this kind of accident. Especially with the cold, the only way to stay warm was to be in the car so that's what I did. My car was operable but after a bit it stopped working. Luckily had a blanket given by the EMS. This just taught me that I should always keep a blanket and possibly another set of clothes and some water in the car at all times. Just in case.

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wutthefvckjushapen t1_j1gw1ow wrote

Can't get the video to play but I got to watch the same ad twice, so that's something.

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Polarbearseven t1_j1h8ibo wrote

“And the Turnpike's slick, the Snow's as thick as thieves…thank God for the man who put the white lines on the highway”

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indrek91 t1_j1h9aid wrote

Why dont people just drive slower...

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jkazama2 t1_j1hnqdz wrote

Replying to Chasingwawaterfalls (#1,033,121)

Honestly I just shouldn't have been on the road. It was fine right up until I got onto the turnpike. Bit of slow going but it was clear and people were making space. But even if you do everything right, it sometimes doesn't work out. Never going to try to test this again

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JesseB342 t1_j1hs4s0 wrote

Not surprising this happened in Sandusky. They’re literally on the shore of Lake Erie so you’ve got the lake effect weather to deal with. That makes things bad on a normal day. You add that on top of blizzard conditions and it’s a recipe for disaster.

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impy695 t1_j1hyfce wrote

Replying to CSI_Tech_Dept (#1,033,090)

I'm 35 and have never gotten into an accident because I always expect other cars to act in unexpected ways as it (hopefully) allows you to avoid collisions that wouldn't be your fault. That goes all out the window in storms like this. It doesn't matter how careful you are, or how much you pay attention, there is no planning for how fast things can turn sideways and all the ways it can happen.

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penguished t1_j1i2u5w wrote

I'd stay far the fuck away from any busy US highways in a storm. They get easily overcrowded to begin with, and as you can see one semi crashes in front, what the hell are the next 49 people going to do? Probably this.

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GoochMasterFlash t1_j1ih6lm wrote

Replying to BeastDynastyGamerz (#1,040,830)

Not true necessarily. Ive hit a deer straight on at 50mph and they didnt go off. Ive also been rear ended by people and had them not go off.

There is a minimum severity needed to make it go off because getting blasted by an airbag sucks and fucks your face up. Im glad it didnt go off when I hit the deer for example, as I would have gotten blasted in the face to protect me from nothing. I assume its not just about force of impact but about how fast the vehicle stops

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jkazama2 t1_j1inomv wrote

Replying to GoochMasterFlash (#1,041,209)

Yeah I think when it senses enough of an impact force and if the steering column starts to move, then it'll pop off. But yea I've had one go off at 10 mph when I hit a fence, which was surprising

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Desner_ t1_j1ioz49 wrote

Replying to messylettuce (#1,033,147)

Those tires wreck roads and will often cause slow leaks (speaking from experience). I’ve been driving for decades in small cars with regular winter tires, even all-season tires back when they were still legal, I never got into a car crash. A jacked-up truck with monstruous tires < driving safely, every single time.

Studded tires would have done fuck-all in this car pileup.

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Fine_With_It_All t1_j1iuxtv wrote

Replying to impy695 (#1,038,950)

I’m glad you’re a careful driver but you haven’t gotten into an accident because you’ve been lucky. No asshat has run a red light or stop sign with you in the intersection or rear ended you cause they were on their phone …. The list goes on . Count your blessings and stay vigilant though

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messylettuce t1_j1iva9h wrote

Replying to Desner_ (#1,042,003)

Um, have gone five winters each on two sets of studded Nokian Hakkas and never had any leaks. You likely simply suffered installer error or faulty rims, but possibly got lucky and bought the shittiest studded tires on the market that year.

Diminished lifespan of public road surfaces is hugely exaggerated by “common knowledge” mythos from the 50s when paving tech was still in its infancy and would be hugely dwarfed by the damage inflicted by fully loaded tractor trailers/lorries and the loose pebbles that’re always on the roads. See:Vermont

Driving slow as a bicycle just to be a cheapskate on road-surface appropriate car tires is just incredibly dumb at best.

Every pileup starts with one homicidally negligent egotistical asshat who thinks that since the odds are low of dying, they’re free to “be practical” and have the tennis shoes of tires on their >3,500lbs vehicle on known & proven low-traction surfaces.

800 Americans die every year because of this idiocy.

Congratulations on not having killed anyone with your car yet.

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Narf234 t1_j1j3z7v wrote

Anyone going to mention that it was a HUMAN DRIVER? People would be loosing their minds if it happened with auto pilot.

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Desner_ t1_j1j4ikw wrote

Replying to messylettuce (#1,042,621)

Fair enough for slow leaks.

The point is that this one asshat would have caused the pile-up even if they did have studded tires installed. I’m not saying they’re completely useless, rather that their efficiency will never compensate for people’s stupidity. Pile-ups would happen even if they were mandatory.

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messylettuce t1_j1j6aro wrote

Replying to Desner_ (#1,043,504)

What a silly rhetoric to state as fact, someone with the sense to put climate-appropriate tires on their two ton lump going too fast for visibility and traction and then spinning themself out.

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impy695 t1_j1jpjv7 wrote

Replying to Fine_With_It_All (#1,042,588)

It's part luck and part checking intersections before entering them to see if a car is going to stop or not. Getting hit by a car running a stop sign or red light isn't your fault, but it is usually avoidable.

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