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steja89 t1_j1ggbn0 wrote
My pregnant sister in law didn't make it. Julie Roth. We just got the news. Im in Columbus, snowed in, can't do anything. I thank God more were not lost. Happy to hear you made it out.
Vegabern t1_j1giakm wrote
I'm so sorry for your loss.
ErnaJoe t1_j1gm83t wrote
I’m so sorry. Holding them in my heart tonight.
jkazama2 t1_j1gslx5 wrote
I... Don't even know what to say, I am so so sorry this happened to your family 😞
kirschbag t1_j1hrbao wrote
What a terrible situation, I’m so sorry for your loss.
CandidateReasonable4 t1_j1hvvmz wrote
So sorry for the loss of your sister in law and baby!
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mother_of_baggins t1_j1fxz9n wrote
Glad you’re (mostly) okay. In this cold it would be scary enough even just having an engine stall; I couldn’t imagine.
jkazama2 t1_j1g5epc wrote
Thanks man. I was going 40 and bring careful and there were no cars in front of me till all of the cars were in front of me including a semi truck. Slammed into the car in front of me and got hit from behind. The airbags didn't go off since it was slow enough I guess but honestly no idea why they didn't
CSI_Tech_Dept t1_j1gaxu6 wrote
Events like that is terrifying to me. It is basically being in the wrong place at the wrong time. You could do everything correctly. Drive safe speed, and even stop on time without accident, but then somebody behind can hit you and you still could end up with injury or even dead.
jkazama2 t1_j1ge2gt wrote
100% I'm counting my blessings for sure tonight
nilogram t1_j1gtmti wrote
Happy you’re ok damn that’s crazy
impy695 t1_j1hyfce wrote
I'm 35 and have never gotten into an accident because I always expect other cars to act in unexpected ways as it (hopefully) allows you to avoid collisions that wouldn't be your fault. That goes all out the window in storms like this. It doesn't matter how careful you are, or how much you pay attention, there is no planning for how fast things can turn sideways and all the ways it can happen.
Fine_With_It_All t1_j1iuxtv wrote
I’m glad you’re a careful driver but you haven’t gotten into an accident because you’ve been lucky. No asshat has run a red light or stop sign with you in the intersection or rear ended you cause they were on their phone …. The list goes on . Count your blessings and stay vigilant though
impy695 t1_j1jpjv7 wrote
It's part luck and part checking intersections before entering them to see if a car is going to stop or not. Getting hit by a car running a stop sign or red light isn't your fault, but it is usually avoidable.
fatality216 t1_j1jgv2m wrote
Just don't count your blessings while driving
JanitorKarl t1_j1gduun wrote
Glad things weren't worse for you. This storm has been exceptionally bad. Wind, cold, and blowing snow are a deadly mix.
BeastDynastyGamerz t1_j1idvf4 wrote
Airbags should go off no matter how slow you’re going as long as there is enough force to set the sensors off. I’m guessing if you got a hurt neck those sensors should triggered
GoochMasterFlash t1_j1ih6lm wrote
Not true necessarily. Ive hit a deer straight on at 50mph and they didnt go off. Ive also been rear ended by people and had them not go off.
There is a minimum severity needed to make it go off because getting blasted by an airbag sucks and fucks your face up. Im glad it didnt go off when I hit the deer for example, as I would have gotten blasted in the face to protect me from nothing. I assume its not just about force of impact but about how fast the vehicle stops
jkazama2 t1_j1inomv wrote
Yeah I think when it senses enough of an impact force and if the steering column starts to move, then it'll pop off. But yea I've had one go off at 10 mph when I hit a fence, which was surprising
jkazama2 t1_j1g597l wrote
Thanks man. It was terrifying with the cold after the wave of hit after hit it car. Was going 40 with no cars in front of me till all of the cars and trucks broken under an underpass. Barely had time to slow down
HUMOROUSSSS t1_j1g6el2 wrote
How long did ya have to wait in that mess post crash?
jkazama2 t1_j1g6qmn wrote
Emergency services were there within about 20-30 minutes. I had to wait probably another 20-30 before they were able to take me in an emergency services truck to their service stop. The scary thing after three initial crash was my back window was blown out and my window was stuck down and it got cold really fast. Luckily they had blankets they were handing out on the road and I was able to stay slightly warmer. They were of course attending to the more serious injuries near the back but they all did a fantastic job of getting us out of there
Apollo-o t1_j1hbdyq wrote
We are still on the scene, I’ll pass your words off to the crews. We are glad you got out.
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HelpImOutside t1_j1gp5x2 wrote
Did you get out of your car pretty quickly or did you stay in it, to be "safe"? I've been told in that situation you definitely want to stay in your car, but it would be hard to sit there defenseless, waiting for a car to rear end you again.
jkazama2 t1_j1gsfhq wrote
It is almost always safer to stay in the car in this kind of accident. Especially with the cold, the only way to stay warm was to be in the car so that's what I did. My car was operable but after a bit it stopped working. Luckily had a blanket given by the EMS. This just taught me that I should always keep a blanket and possibly another set of clothes and some water in the car at all times. Just in case.
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Chasingwawaterfalls OP t1_j1gbakx wrote
I’m so sorry. I know most of the rhetoric is “why would anyone be out in this?”
I remember working a job that made me come in weather be damned and the option of missing that paycheck or being fired honestly felt like it was worth the risk if it meant eating and being housed.
So glad you’re okay.
jkazama2 t1_j1hnqdz wrote
Honestly I just shouldn't have been on the road. It was fine right up until I got onto the turnpike. Bit of slow going but it was clear and people were making space. But even if you do everything right, it sometimes doesn't work out. Never going to try to test this again
420ipblood t1_j1in42g wrote
One mistake another person makes is all it takes.
And sometimes no one makes a mistake and it still goes to shit.
Murderlol t1_j1g4wh4 wrote
I'm glad you're safe
Xtasy0178 t1_j1h53td wrote
I hope you got your neck checked out ?
jkazama2 t1_j1hncca wrote
Absolutely. planning to once I'm able to get home
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viktor72 t1_j1flzlc wrote
Our flight last night from Columbus to Denver was canceled. My SO, love him to bits, he was so sad he couldn’t see family he wanted to drive to Cincinnati and catch another flight today. Thank God for reality checks and no we didn’t leave the house and plus the flight was canceled too anyway. It sucks but it is what it is. We were all ready to go yesterday when we got the email about the cancellation.
lightbulbfragment t1_j1fm9zs wrote
Yep loads of flights cancelled yesterday and today, so more people will try to drive in this weather unfortunately.
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HotSauceHigh t1_j1fijs4 wrote
Horrible start to a holiday weekend
Igoos99 t1_j1fcvxv wrote
Ok, I initially read that as 50 people died. 😳😳😳
Murderlol t1_j1g4s0l wrote
Across the whole U.S. that's probably accurate. Or will be when it's over.
Yevon t1_j1goh2k wrote
In 2021, 117 people died in car collisions per day on average for a total of 42,915 car related fatalities that year. I would be surprised if this storm lowered that daily number.
https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/early-estimate-2021-traffic-fatalities
Fine_With_It_All t1_j1iv66g wrote
It’s staggering how unsafe many drivers are. The sad part, they kill thousands of people just going about their day
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Gone213 t1_j1glsxx wrote
No one should be fucking traveling. They'll risk their lives to go visit relatives when you can celebrate the holidays at a later time. OHDOT and MDOT really fucked up by not closing the turnpike and I94 for today and maybe even tomorrow.
ProductsPlease t1_j1hdv6f wrote
Can ODOT shut down the turnpike? The Ohio Turnpike is privately owned/operated.
Gone213 t1_j1hqnte wrote
Apparently ODOT doesn't control the turnpike but a separate agency OTIC (ohio turnpike and infrastructure commission does).
Iwoulddiefcftbatk t1_j1hhn4i wrote
No, since it’s privately owned ODOT has no authority.
KarateKid917 t1_j1hpcsv wrote
Who the fuck privately owns a major turnpike?
2-wheels t1_j1i4q0h wrote
This is what Republican rule gets you. Privatize everything but regulate nothing. Oh, and stealing elections is good with many of them.
fullload93 t1_j1hs50m wrote
Some rich asshole.
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leo_aureus t1_j1ic3wu wrote
It is not privately owned that is Indians; Kasich considered it but rejected that notion in 2011
exotiah t1_j1fen32 wrote
Eventually people will learn not to drive in shit weather.
1Sluggo t1_j1fkn5k wrote
Hard to do if you work in healthcare.
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If you drive fast enough, you can arrive at the scene of an accident while on your way to work. It saves time!
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brainbank786 t1_j1fmmt6 wrote
Life ain’t that simple bro
xluckydayx t1_j1g080k wrote
Cool. Tell that to Congress to pass comprehensive worker protections for weather events.
As long as people have to go to work, people will die in bad weather.
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Designated-Street880 t1_j1g0owh wrote
Yeah guys just work from home like I do!! I don't see what the problem is???
traegeryyc t1_j1fiwkd wrote
Do you not understand how important MY plans are?
buttonjustify t1_j1fmg88 wrote
Reddit mfs don’t leave their houses. You understand people have JOBS and have to drive no matter what
Ares__ t1_j1fs6oq wrote
Also that conditions change over time and in different places like when driving. I can leave my house where it's fine and end up in whiteout conditions.
Gone213 t1_j1glxvl wrote
The counties were in a level 3 snow emergency so it was actually illegal for people to be driving on the roads unless it was an absolute emergency for them.
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LittleKittyLove t1_j1ftnok wrote
Oh shit, jobs! I haven’t heard of those before.
Thank you educating me.
buttonjustify t1_j1fwyl4 wrote
yep no problem. now go get one.
asdaaaaaaaa t1_j1fo69g wrote
Plus, it's a sport utility vehicle, obviously it's meant for this weather!
Ranger_Hardass t1_j1gfka6 wrote
I grew up in a community next the Ohio turnpike. Unfortunately, there's one or two of these pile ups every winter. People often freely exceed the 70 mph speed limit since there's no cops, only the occasional trooper watching for hazardous driving.
auribus t1_j1go2yb wrote
It's not that common. There hasn't even been snow around Christmas in that area for a few years.
Ranger_Hardass t1_j1gougb wrote
I didn't say it was specific to Christmas. Northern Ohio doesn't start to get into the snowy part of winter until January-February. Most years there isn't much if any snow on the ground at Christmas. I just said that at least one bad pile up happens every winter on the Turnpike.
auribus t1_j1gp9rb wrote
I've lived in the area for most of my life and this is out of the norm. The turnpike is the "safe" route.
Ranger_Hardass t1_j1gqyd1 wrote
You're entitled to your opinion. I avoid the turnpike during winter weather events since I feel unsafe on a major shipping/travel route where other drivers usually speed excessively and where they assume they can drive like it's a sunny day in August. I couldn't recommend going on the turnpike during any type of bad weather.
emohipster t1_j1hfut4 wrote
Sounds like you're trying to take away my freedom, nice try commie.
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Hatsee t1_j1gq8el wrote
There are rarely any problems driving in shit weather.
The problems are almost always related to stopping.
usumoio t1_j1fhj29 wrote
But I wanted some donuts.
LowDownSkankyDude t1_j1fhv9u wrote
Right!? Get in. How bad could it possibly be?
Okioter t1_j1g2dcy wrote
No they will not, people are incapable of holding to safety standards on the road in winter. I had to plow into a minivan full of disabled puppies just to get on the highway. Seriously though, people just don't weight the consequences of driving in winter enough.
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synapticrelease t1_j1fl1cd wrote
I mean if you just drive for the weather conditions, you wouldn't be going a speed that's fatal.
BraverXIII t1_j1fmatu wrote
Doesn't really matter when people around you are going fatal speeds.
synapticrelease t1_j1fqlqv wrote
Please reread my comment.
ProductsPlease t1_j1he3hm wrote
Please...reread theirs? You'll die if someone going 120 hits you regardless of how slow you're moving.
synapticrelease t1_j1iglf3 wrote
Yes and if everybody drives for the weather, they wouldn't be going 120.
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TabascosDad t1_j1fsxdl wrote
Poor people, such a shitty way to start the holiday weekend, not to mention everyone else who wanted to use that road having a terrible detour.
I was on that section of road coming home last December, I remember it was crazy foggy so I was only comfortable going about 40, and people were flying past me like I was standing still. Be safe out there, everyone!
igottagetoutofthis t1_j1f90rq wrote
Is there a winter storm or something?
OrpheusV t1_j1fbuk7 wrote
Combined with some gnarly ice, yeah. It's nuts all over most of the U.S. currently.
beatlefloydzeppelin t1_j1fqfei wrote
A beekeeper on tiktok told me there wasn't a storm.
i_was_an_airplane t1_j1gffn2 wrote
I am in favor of the jobs the storm will provide
Taman_Should t1_j1gi5tw wrote
If we just stop using thermometers, the number of ice storms will go down in no time. You'll see.
Existing-Broccoli-27 t1_j1h11hw wrote
They’ll trickle down when the ice starts melting a little.
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fattymcelbows t1_j1fq8x1 wrote
I was supposed to be at a wedding in Chicago yesterday and drive home on I-90/80 today. Feeling like I dodged a bullet right now.
onairmastering t1_j1frluq wrote
Yep, this means Xmas all alone for me.
nimin2 t1_j1mzrue wrote
You're not alone in that at least. Lonely Christmas all around
AdFickle677 t1_j1get37 wrote
This is the coldest air I can remember in a long time.
AssociationNo8376 t1_j1gfzu0 wrote
I drove 50 miles today in Michigan, I have no fucking idea why i did that.
wetmouthed t1_j1fshmd wrote
Oh my god that is the most devastating crash I have ever seen. It's horrific that 2 people have died, it honestly looks like it could have been many more.
OrphanSince12yrsOld t1_j1gzhqy wrote
It’s now up to 4 confirmed fatalities
zer1223 t1_j1ftkwp wrote
Oh my god in THIS weather? Absolutely awful
HankHillIsTheBest t1_j1hpsiw wrote
Thank god there are no “only in Ohio” comments
wutthefvckjushapen t1_j1gw1ow wrote
Can't get the video to play but I got to watch the same ad twice, so that's something.
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Polarbearseven t1_j1h8ibo wrote
“And the Turnpike's slick, the Snow's as thick as thieves…thank God for the man who put the white lines on the highway”
JesseB342 t1_j1hs4s0 wrote
Not surprising this happened in Sandusky. They’re literally on the shore of Lake Erie so you’ve got the lake effect weather to deal with. That makes things bad on a normal day. You add that on top of blizzard conditions and it’s a recipe for disaster.
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penguished t1_j1i2u5w wrote
I'd stay far the fuck away from any busy US highways in a storm. They get easily overcrowded to begin with, and as you can see one semi crashes in front, what the hell are the next 49 people going to do? Probably this.
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downvoting_zac t1_j1q95kj wrote
Another typical day in Ohio, unfortunately
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Narf234 t1_j1j3z7v wrote
Anyone going to mention that it was a HUMAN DRIVER? People would be loosing their minds if it happened with auto pilot.
indrek91 t1_j1h9aid wrote
Why dont people just drive slower...
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RooMagoo t1_j1gae6h wrote
Northern Ohio is a big hub with the great lakes, 80/90 and 75 all intersecting. Do you realize the supply chain shit show that would happen if trucking in Northern Ohio shut down every time there was bad weather? Oh yeah, and those truckers can just not get paid I guess. Not to mention the people travelling that drove into the storm. Not a lot of places to stop off the highway in BFE Erie county, Ohio, and trust me, the roads off the highway there are way worse.
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CPargermer t1_j1g3652 wrote
It snows in the north. People can often still drive just fine in it. I'd say people should reconsider if they really need drive during those conditions, but I don't think it's right to assume there is no reason at all.
What if someone is at work and needs to get home? What if someone works in healthcare where lives rely on them getting to work? Or any other critical industry energy, heating, plumbing, electrician, etc.?
Just fuck everyone else because there is a slim chance something bad might happen?
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Taysir385 t1_j1gckey wrote
> There's nowhere you have to be that's more important than your life
The thing is, some of these people are driving because it is literally a matter of life and death. So while yes, there should be less people on the road, the solution is to get the government to ensure a better social safety net and worker protections for unsafe travel conditions, not to armchair quarterback the person driving to work because if he doesn't his two kids won't eat.
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messylettuce t1_j1gbodd wrote
Can states that get iced roads more than twice a year start mandating studded tires November to May? These pileups and all the thousands of small slidey crashes just get dumber every fricken year.
RainingRabbits t1_j1gcvn6 wrote
Studded tires damage the road if you don't have snowpack to drive on and are illegal in some states because of this. Plus, the best tires in the world can't help you if you if you can't see the stopped vehicles in front of you.
ProductsPlease t1_j1he8mc wrote
Tell me you've never driven in the snow without telling me you've never driven in the snow.
Desner_ t1_j1ioz49 wrote
Those tires wreck roads and will often cause slow leaks (speaking from experience). I’ve been driving for decades in small cars with regular winter tires, even all-season tires back when they were still legal, I never got into a car crash. A jacked-up truck with monstruous tires < driving safely, every single time.
Studded tires would have done fuck-all in this car pileup.
messylettuce t1_j1iva9h wrote
Um, have gone five winters each on two sets of studded Nokian Hakkas and never had any leaks. You likely simply suffered installer error or faulty rims, but possibly got lucky and bought the shittiest studded tires on the market that year.
Diminished lifespan of public road surfaces is hugely exaggerated by “common knowledge” mythos from the 50s when paving tech was still in its infancy and would be hugely dwarfed by the damage inflicted by fully loaded tractor trailers/lorries and the loose pebbles that’re always on the roads. See:Vermont
Driving slow as a bicycle just to be a cheapskate on road-surface appropriate car tires is just incredibly dumb at best.
Every pileup starts with one homicidally negligent egotistical asshat who thinks that since the odds are low of dying, they’re free to “be practical” and have the tennis shoes of tires on their >3,500lbs vehicle on known & proven low-traction surfaces.
800 Americans die every year because of this idiocy.
Congratulations on not having killed anyone with your car yet.
Desner_ t1_j1j4ikw wrote
Fair enough for slow leaks.
The point is that this one asshat would have caused the pile-up even if they did have studded tires installed. I’m not saying they’re completely useless, rather that their efficiency will never compensate for people’s stupidity. Pile-ups would happen even if they were mandatory.
messylettuce t1_j1j6aro wrote
What a silly rhetoric to state as fact, someone with the sense to put climate-appropriate tires on their two ton lump going too fast for visibility and traction and then spinning themself out.
Desner_ t1_j1j9jgs wrote
… are you saying this doesn’t happen? Please.
jkazama2 t1_j1fusl8 wrote
I was in this. Most terrifying moment if my life and am lucky to walk away with a neck sprain