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Desner_ t1_j1ioz49 wrote

Reply to comment by messylettuce in Multiple People Injured - One Killed in 50-pileup crash on Ohio Turnpike by Chasingwawaterfalls

Those tires wreck roads and will often cause slow leaks (speaking from experience). I’ve been driving for decades in small cars with regular winter tires, even all-season tires back when they were still legal, I never got into a car crash. A jacked-up truck with monstruous tires < driving safely, every single time.

Studded tires would have done fuck-all in this car pileup.

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messylettuce t1_j1iva9h wrote

Um, have gone five winters each on two sets of studded Nokian Hakkas and never had any leaks. You likely simply suffered installer error or faulty rims, but possibly got lucky and bought the shittiest studded tires on the market that year.

Diminished lifespan of public road surfaces is hugely exaggerated by “common knowledge” mythos from the 50s when paving tech was still in its infancy and would be hugely dwarfed by the damage inflicted by fully loaded tractor trailers/lorries and the loose pebbles that’re always on the roads. See:Vermont

Driving slow as a bicycle just to be a cheapskate on road-surface appropriate car tires is just incredibly dumb at best.

Every pileup starts with one homicidally negligent egotistical asshat who thinks that since the odds are low of dying, they’re free to “be practical” and have the tennis shoes of tires on their >3,500lbs vehicle on known & proven low-traction surfaces.

800 Americans die every year because of this idiocy.

Congratulations on not having killed anyone with your car yet.

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Desner_ t1_j1j4ikw wrote

Fair enough for slow leaks.

The point is that this one asshat would have caused the pile-up even if they did have studded tires installed. I’m not saying they’re completely useless, rather that their efficiency will never compensate for people’s stupidity. Pile-ups would happen even if they were mandatory.

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messylettuce t1_j1j6aro wrote

What a silly rhetoric to state as fact, someone with the sense to put climate-appropriate tires on their two ton lump going too fast for visibility and traction and then spinning themself out.

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Desner_ t1_j1j9jgs wrote

… are you saying this doesn’t happen? Please.

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