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Cyclone_1 t1_j1f1n4r wrote

I hope that I live to see a free and independent Scotland.

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MrJGT t1_j1f91mc wrote

I hope we get to see a UK free and independent of the Tories.

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blackirishhellhounds t1_j1g8w0b wrote

Fuck from a person across the pond fuck the Tories you guys deserve better much love from U.S

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SenseUnderstood t1_j1gf1v6 wrote

They do deserve better, their Prime Minister was a Young Global Leader at the World Economic Forum.

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blackirishhellhounds t1_j1ggbqu wrote

We all deserve better. I'm tired of the rich and powerful treating us like we're nothing and the mindless just going along with it because they don't know any better. We need to rise up and fight this tierney.

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leni710 t1_j1f2hp3 wrote

"making it easier for predatory men"

Like the entire catholic church putting children on a golden platter for actual predatory men?🙄

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LinksMyHero t1_j1f9slg wrote

I will never understand this argument. You don't have to go hrough the trouble of legally changing genders to be able to sexually harass people in the women's restroom. Like, it's just opening a door and not pulling out some weird gender Excalibur. Anyone could do it

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StranglesMcWhiskey t1_j1fdsh2 wrote

Their argument is essentially this: anyone that doesn't conform to our gender norms is a pervert and a predator. It's the same argument that bigots made against homosexuals in the 60s (and now, but it's gotten a bit better over time.)

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SsiSsiSsiSsi t1_j1f9y5y wrote

Wait, you mean your bathrooms don’t have guards checking ID and genitals?

Wild!

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SsiSsiSsiSsi t1_j1f3rh1 wrote

It’s the UK, the Catholic Church isn’t in the standing you might imagine, but helpfully Tory politicians and members have stepped up to fill the diddling gap.

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UndergroundMoon t1_j1f45aa wrote

"We know better than you about what's good for you."

Fuck all the way off.

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Heroic_Sheperd t1_j1inspe wrote

Government has always been shitty this way. Tobacco, alcohol, marijuana, steroids. They can fuck right off with telling a person what they want to do with their body, including gender reaffirming surgery.

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ShrekJohnson27 t1_j1fidr1 wrote

That just sounds like big governments recently on a number of any topics

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kdlangequalsgoddess t1_j1g9kph wrote

Does he know that overriding Scotland is a great way to increase support for Scottish independence? Or know, and just not care? The MSPs were duly elected by the Scottish people, and voted to approve the measure. The fact that Sunak (who got given the job of PM after Truss self-destructed) doesn't like it, doesn't make it illegal.

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Prestigious_Main_364 t1_j1i6bu8 wrote

They made it so it’s almost impossible to secede from the UK without a near total unified vote from parliament. They’ll just refuse to allow Scotland to leave.

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kdlangequalsgoddess t1_j1ie07p wrote

That's how the system was designed. Devolution was supposed to be a release valve for dissatisfaction with Westminister, and ensure some comfortable jobs for those on Scottish Labour's B team. Donald Dewar (who was a seriously clever guy) devised the system in such a way so that it was thought impossible for the ScotNats to get anywhere near power.

If the Scottish people get serious about supporting independence, then the status quo is going to make it very difficult for Scotland to leave. A vote in Holyrood isn't going to cut it. There is no magical legal jujitsu, no secret safe combination, that can be used to force the UK government to recognize the Scottish people's desire for independence. There will not just have to be a vote, there has to be a movement for independence with a force that the UK government has no choice but to accept.

The status quo making it nigh-impossible to change the status quo isn't a bug, it's a feature. The status quo seeks to defend itself at all costs.

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neromoneon t1_j1jjksb wrote

Ultimately laws bend to power. And power distills to force. Scotland was forced into the Union and it has to force its way out of it.

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420ipblood t1_j1ingk4 wrote

What if you guys worked on improving shit vs. separating?

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passinghere t1_j1f6dvp wrote

So simply refuse to even talk to the striking NHS staff, but can find the time and willpower to wade in and try to stop a different country changing their own laws regards people changing their gender... so good to see this fuckwit has got his priorities correct /s... utter self entitled rich prick that has no clue how real people live

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pegothejerk t1_j1f7uga wrote

Him being bigoted is the least shocking thing of the year.

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musical_fanatic t1_j1h0t2x wrote

Scottish independence is on my 2023 bingo card

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neromoneon t1_j1jj2db wrote

I think Scotland may have concerns about Sunak. How shall they be examined?

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