Cloaked42m t1_j1czq07 wrote
Reply to comment by BearGryllsUrineSlurp in DC Police Officers Found Guilty in Karon Hylton-Brown’s Death by foodude84
Doctors get malpractice insurance. Lawyers get malfeasance insurance. People will insure officers also. Insurance is just covering a bet. You can always find someone to cover a bet.
Civil right violation was that he had the right to be alive. Directly due to the officers action, he isn't alive.
Also, due process. You can't randomly pull someone over because you "think" they "might" have a gun.
Long story short. We want good cops. That means we need to trust cops. Part of trusting them means knowing that if they fuck up, they will suffer consequences.
These cops fucked up, someone died, they are paying the price for their fatal fuckup.
BearGryllsUrineSlurp t1_j1d0nn4 wrote
That’s not what a civil rights violation is, and again it’s been brought up for years about insurance but still not one insurance company wants to or has offered it.
Also due process is not what reasonable suspicion is, the man was being stopped for a helmet violation which is a legal stop. He was then going to be questioned about the details of the retaliation. Completely legal and a justified stop.
The only fuckup these guys did was break department policy, and if that brings criminal charges then I doubt blame them for becoming short staffed soon.
Cloaked42m t1_j1d2len wrote
Dude, read the article. They lied about it being a valid stop. They admitted they lied.
They hit the lights to see if he would run.
They broke policy, resulting in the DEATH of a human.
They didn't flub some paperwork. A guy died.
BearGryllsUrineSlurp t1_j1d2rk8 wrote
The guy died because HE decided to run, the cops broke DEPARTMENT policy stating not to chase.
The guy died as a result of his own actions, the cops didn’t force him to run.
Cloaked42m t1_j1d69pw wrote
Dude, that doesn't make a lick of sense even on the surface.
Cops break the law by attempting to pull someone over for no reason. That's the initiating action. Everything after that is the cops responsibility.
They then chase him around, again breaking policy, which is a continuing action. Probably what took it from reckless homicide to 2nd degree murder.
These are also police officers. They have reason to know better. We have reasons to EXPECT better.
tl;dr Cops do their job right - Guy doesn't die.
He's dead as a direct result of the initiating action of cops not doing their job right.
BearGryllsUrineSlurp t1_j1d6tfv wrote
Your first sentence contradicts everything, they were attempting to pull him over for a helmet violation and riding on the sidewalk. Not even the prosecutor said the stop was unjustified. You decide to ignore this.
Also breaking policy does not justify murder at all, there is no intent on the officers to kill him. If anything it would be negligent homicide and that’s a stretch.
You reaching everywhere to defend a guy that knowingly and consciously decided to take a risk by running from the police in a residential area where the chance of an accident is high. You keep trying to push the blame of him fleeing the stop as the cops fault.
Hypothetically If the stop was unjustified he still can’t run since he doesn’t know the reason for the stop, and that’s a COURT issue not a self made decision.
Cloaked42m t1_j1d95y9 wrote
It is the cops fault for trying to stop him in the first place.
Go read the article. They lied about the helmet violation and riding on the sidewalk. They admitted that they only tried to pull him over to see if he would run.
BearGryllsUrineSlurp t1_j1df61a wrote
The body cam still shows him clearly riding in the sidewalk and in a reckless manner. Even if you believe you did nothing wrong you still cannot run from the police. It’s a court matter. How are you missing that point it was his choice to run?
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