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Thoughtful_Mouse t1_j25yt6f wrote
Reply to comment by Drando_HS in One of eight teen girls charged in Toronto stabbing death granted bail by liquid_deflation
Yea. Without seeing the actual knife it's hard to know for sure, but most of them aren't crew-operated.
With 8 people charged there has got to be varying levels of culpability among them.
Unless this is a Caesar situation, I mean....
Shirofang t1_j26vssy wrote
There were 60 senators in the conspiracy but Caesar died of 23 stab wounds.
Fat_Kid_Hot_4_U t1_j29doxc wrote
Most were post death stabbings as well.
East-Worker4190 t1_j27e7mv wrote
In the uk we have (had?) joint venture. If you were at the murder, even if you didn't hold the knife, you were a murderer. In this case it looks like they are all co-conspirators to murder/manslaughter at least.
Thoughtful_Mouse t1_j27rvwl wrote
Same in the US, but like... if you were there and ran away afraid, but quickly decided that you should go to the police... or if you planned the murder with the person who did the actual stabbing... or if you were coerced into participating...
Even if many of these folks conspired to murder it wouldn't surprise me if when tried separately the sentencing works out different based on their level of involvement and their behavior before during and after.
East-Worker4190 t1_j27vis2 wrote
Completely agree with the joint venture not being a great solution. I think the example case is people break into the house, the owner shot one burglar, now the the others are prosecuted for murder. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/09/24/a-person-can-be-charged-with-murder-even-if-they-haven-t-killed-anyone
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