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[deleted] t1_j24mkso wrote

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Thoughtcriminal91 t1_j24z7b8 wrote

When it comes down to it, even the most hard core "no snitching" folks will take a deal behind closed doors if enough years of they're life are on the table.

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shadow_jacker4 t1_j25fmke wrote

I'd be very surprised to hear any of them get more than 5 years for this considering this is Canada

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Macqt t1_j262kzx wrote

The sentence for second degree murder in Canada is 25 years, bud.

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CW1DR5H5I64A t1_j26dv3d wrote

For a juvenile?

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random20190826 t1_j26yul0 wrote

10 years for a juvenile.

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Genericgeriatric t1_j2emod4 wrote

If time in custody awaiting trial is counted against the sentence, then assuming good behavior, they'll be released to a halfway house after serving 1/3 of their sentence. So, maybe only 3 years served behind bars for a 10-year sentence.

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Prophet_of_Entropy t1_j291760 wrote

thats a maximum sentence, courts will likely give them much much less. you can murder someone and get out in a couple years in canada. do it with a car and you probably wont even go to prison.

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Macqt t1_j292142 wrote

Murder, both degrees, carry mandatory sentences in Canada, not maximums. Adults convicted are sentenced to life, which means 25 years before parole can be considered.

Manslaughter has a maximum of life, but is usually much less.

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ChocoboRocket t1_j25svwa wrote

>I'd be very surprised to hear any of them get more than 5 years for this considering this is Canada

Don't know why you are being downvoted. Canada has terrible policy on crime, particularly repeat offenders.

Anything shy of murder is effectively a slap on the wrist. Or you can just run people over in your vehicle (somehow helps if you're drunk) and it's a moving violation instead of a crime.

Sexual assault, even on minors results in little if any incarceration.

Welcome to Canada, where everyone but the victims are treated as Saudi royalty by the justice system!

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1dererLives t1_j25wj0u wrote

>Welcome to Canada, where everyone but the victims are treated as Saudi royalty by the justice system!

What an incredibly bad faith comment.

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ChocoboRocket t1_j2aitxr wrote

>>Welcome to Canada, where everyone but the victims are treated as Saudi royalty by the justice system! > >What an incredibly bad faith comment.

What of it? Is hyperbole forbidden?

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myrddyna t1_j2cwet5 wrote

Nope. But, I feel betrayed. You've gone and sent all the chocobos to Mars.

I trusted you, Elon! My chocobos!

/cry

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ishitfrommymouth t1_j276t58 wrote

Horribly biased bad faith comment but it’s still upvotes by Reddit lol. They’d rather the American method of sentencing someone to 147 years in prison for weed.

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Canadian_Pacer t1_j29pjpp wrote

You know whats strange? I work at a Federal Medium Penitentiary in Canada. I see countless inmates daily. Some of these guys are labelled as DO (dangerous offenders). These inmates are jailed indefinitely until the parole board releaeses them, if ever. Some of the D.O.'s in my humble opinion aren't worthy of such extreme justice. Yet, some other crazy, dangerous pieces of dogshit offenders are not labelled as D.O.'s even though they should be. The whole classification of inmates and the punishments aren't consistent and seem quite random.

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Drando_HS t1_j25mmtc wrote

Also possible that she was an accessory to the act and didn't do any stabbing herself. Still a piece of shit, just slightly less of one.

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Thoughtful_Mouse t1_j25yt6f wrote

Yea. Without seeing the actual knife it's hard to know for sure, but most of them aren't crew-operated.

With 8 people charged there has got to be varying levels of culpability among them.

Unless this is a Caesar situation, I mean....

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Shirofang t1_j26vssy wrote

There were 60 senators in the conspiracy but Caesar died of 23 stab wounds.

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East-Worker4190 t1_j27e7mv wrote

In the uk we have (had?) joint venture. If you were at the murder, even if you didn't hold the knife, you were a murderer. In this case it looks like they are all co-conspirators to murder/manslaughter at least.

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Thoughtful_Mouse t1_j27rvwl wrote

Same in the US, but like... if you were there and ran away afraid, but quickly decided that you should go to the police... or if you planned the murder with the person who did the actual stabbing... or if you were coerced into participating...

Even if many of these folks conspired to murder it wouldn't surprise me if when tried separately the sentencing works out different based on their level of involvement and their behavior before during and after.

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