CryptidGrimnoir t1_iw96u3f wrote
Reply to comment by earhere in Suspect in custody following fatal shooting of 12-year-old, 14-year-old also injured in Colorado shooting by spiceponey
>Hell, you don't even have to change the constitution. Just make acquiring a firearm a lot more difficult than just going to a store and buying it.
You do realize that those purchases require background checks right?
Criminals ain't using gun stores.
>Make it so you need to have three personal references that the seller can contact to make sure it's not a mistake selling you a firearm.
Hell no. That's beyond an invasion of privacy. And again, criminal background checks.
And it won't do a damn thing to prevent criminals.
>Make it so you need to have a gun safe to store the weapon before you can get one.
Only if the government provides a gun safe to each and every person, free of charge.
Otherwise, it's a tax on a right and that's abhorrent.
>The ease of firearm acquisition and ownership is making the country less safe, but because gun perverts will not consider any gun legislation that does not stop 100% of gun violence for all eternity, nothing changes and people keep getting killed that did not need to be.
First of all, there's hundreds of thousands of defensive uses with firearms every year.
Second of all, everything you said does not appear to do a damn thing to actually lower crime.
Third of all, calling your opponents "gun perverts" does not do you any favors.
Fourth of all, the right to self-defense is absolute. Banning firearms infringes on our rights to bear arms and our rights to self-defense.
earhere t1_iw97p8w wrote
See, you're proving my point. Because the measures I suggested, in your opinion, won't stop 100% of gun crimes and gun violence for all eternity; they aren't worth doing. So the solution is to just continue as the country has been doing and just ignore the mass shootings that occur every other day and keep pumping more guns into the country and the hands of individuals who are one road rage incident away from committing a murder.
CryptidGrimnoir t1_iw98asg wrote
You don't have a point to stand on!
None of those measures would decrease shootings--they'd only punish the law-abiding.
Start coming up with things that would actually decrease crime!
Stop conflating gang violence with horrific massacres.
And there's literally more defensive uses of firearms by an order of magnitude compared to homicides.
earhere t1_iw98wl5 wrote
To stop crime you have to deal with poverty. Lower the wealth gap, increase minimum wage, improve schools and education. Offer more after school programs and community centers where kids can go to participate in positive activities. But, we were talking about gun violence, and if there's less guns available then there's going to be less gun violence.
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