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BeKind_BeTheChange t1_ixutw6p wrote

I'm fairly certain we can drop the "alleged" regarding the sex trafficking operation. Maxwell has been convicted and Epstein would have been convicted had he not been murdered.

Edit- "Allegedly" murdered? Nah, they killed him.

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fastal_12147 t1_ixuxpgc wrote

I think allegedly refers to the banks' role in the trafficking operation, not Epstein

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BeKind_BeTheChange t1_ixuzbnt wrote

That's not how I read the sentence. "...the late financier's alleged sex trafficking operation..."

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submittedanonymously t1_ixvgn7g wrote

Solve… what psh order did do anything ever word to??

>!Psh… what did word order ever do to solve anything??!<

(I had a lot more fun writing this than I thought I was going to have.)

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strwbryshrtck521 t1_ixv2tms wrote

In journalism, you have to say "allegedly" if there is no conviction. Which there wasn't, as he died before trial, and nobody was implicated in his (alleged) murder.

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BeKind_BeTheChange t1_ixv3w79 wrote

Yeah, I get it. But I'm not a journalist and those banks benefitted from their relationship with the murdered sex-trafficker, Jeffrey Epstein.

Come at me, bro. ;-)

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dkran t1_ixvo5gv wrote

Virginia Giuffries settled, without making an announcement as to how much. She was the most steadfast accuser of Epstein and she STFU. Not saying he didn’t do horrible things, but apparently moral obligation goes out the window when you get an undisclosed amount of money.

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PhallusAran t1_ixvxud7 wrote

What was the timeline for this relative to Epstein's alleged murder? (I am seriously asking) could intimidation play a role?

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MGD109 t1_ixvyt9z wrote

It happened three years afterwards, it had nothing to do with Epstein's death.

Andrew Winsor's lawyers just offered her enough money to agree cause he was clearly going to lose.

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dkran t1_ixvyrov wrote

Sorry, I misspoke. Prince Andrew paid her off around March 8, 2022. I’m not victim blaming here, but this circle deserves the worst that can come at them. It’s unfortunate credible victims flip.

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MGD109 t1_ixw06gt wrote

>It’s unfortunate credible victims flip.

She's never flipped. She's still carrying on telling everyone who will listen that he raped her.

Her accepting the money out of court doesn't mean she got a hush payment.

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MGD109 t1_ixvz1vv wrote

It was a civil trial, not a criminal one.

The only outcome if she had won, was that she got the money.

Why the heck shouldn't she accept the payment if they were offering her what she was going to win in damages?

Why is that so hard to understand? People act like she took a bribe.

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dkran t1_ixvzljd wrote

A civil trial can become criminal if criminal wrongdoing can be proved within statute of limitations. He was ordered to testify.

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MGD109 t1_ixvzrst wrote

Sure it can. But that was never going to happen in this particular trial. Everyone involved knew that from the start, including Virginia Giuffries.

Even if Andrew had testified it wouldn't have mattered, it not being a criminal trial their is no chance of perjury charges even if he was proven to be lying.

Unfortunately everything they could prove he'd done, simply wasn't illegal either in New York or in Britain.

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