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Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwv7z5g wrote
>Ohio Franklin County Public Health has raised alarm on rising cases of Measles in the County for the first time in almost 20 years.
>“Many of the cases have a history of recent travel to Kenya,” the Assistant Health Commissioner Director of Prevention and Wellness Alexandra Jones said in an email to the New Americans magazine.
>“We are working on developing a flyer for individuals who are traveling this holiday season to promote being up to date on vaccinations, especially MMR.”
>Also, Alexandria Jones said, “We currently have several FAQ documents and hot cards regarding measles and information on how to get vaccinated in both Somali and English.”
Franklin County raises Measles Alarm-New Americans Magazine, November 9, 2022
Ok_Panda_8596 t1_iwv83ho wrote
Anti vaxxers take heart.
CapableWill8706 t1_iwv860l wrote
You know, Science has a solution called a vaccine...cutting edge stuff.
HermitKane t1_iwv8cjt wrote
“As of today, we are investigating 24 cases of measles at nine day cares and two schools,” Newman said. “All cases are in unvaccinated children, and all but one are less than 4 years old. One child is 6 years old.”
Don’t be a idiot, vaccinate your kids.
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwv8kqg wrote
It's possible some are too young to be vaccinated. Kids don't get their first measles vaccine until they're 12 months old.
HermitKane t1_iwv8roc wrote
All kids are 4-6 and if there’s a outbreak the MMR can be given at 6 months.
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwv8zu8 wrote
All are younger than 4 except one that is six years old.
unionthug212 t1_iwv9d8p wrote
Kids under 12 months can't get the vaccine, so...
Gozillasbday t1_iwv9u66 wrote
Let's just quarantine all of Ohio to be safe.
Accurate_Zombie_121 t1_iwv9wiy wrote
True and there are some people who can't get vaccinated. But the rest of the population being vaccinated protects those people. This is the results of "I did my own research on Youtube and won't protect my kids from diseases"
swinging-in-the-rain t1_iwvae7w wrote
Please let me out first.
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Standard_Gauge t1_iwvaix8 wrote
> Kids under 12 months can't get the vaccine, so...
... so that's why it is the civic and moral duty for all humans aged 15 months and older to be vaccinated. The fewer carriers, the fewer babies contracting measles and facing deafness, encephalitis, and other complications including DEATH.
dobryden22 t1_iwvap2j wrote
Its our curse as humans to learn the same lessons over and over and over again.
JimBeam823 t1_iwvawow wrote
Obviously, this is part of the one world government conspiracy to only infect unvaccinated children. /s
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvb8ae wrote
So I'm wondering if it's been circulating since June.
>COLUMBUS -- Ohio Department of Health (ODH) Director Bruce Vanderhoff, MD, MBA, has confirmed the state’s first measles case of 2022. The infected child is from Franklin County and recently traveled to a country with confirmed measles cases. ODH is currently not disclosing additional information about the infected individual.
>Ohio occasionally sees measles cases as the result of importations from other countries where measles remains endemic. This is the first confirmed measles case in Ohio since 2019. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) notes that as of June 3, 2022, a total of 3 measles cases were reported by 2 jurisdictions (jurisdictions refer to any of the 50 states, New York City, and the District of Columbia).
Health director reports first measles case in Ohio-June 16, 2022
I wonder how thorough and extensive the contact tracing was.
ArchitectMS2021 t1_iwvbq26 wrote
The CDC and the state of Ohio should require that all school age children to have their Measles vaccination, regardless if they attend public schools or not. If they do not, they cannot be claimed as a dependent on your taxes.
ArchitectMS2021 t1_iwvbwxk wrote
Sad but true. They made their choice, and that choice led directly to their kids contracting and spreading Measles.
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Re-AnImAt0r t1_iwvbzly wrote
Department of child welfare needs to be investigating 24 cases of medical neglect of a child......
EverythingIDidntSay t1_iwvcjyf wrote
Does Ohio not require vaccines for daycare?
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Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvdvz9 wrote
I think they allow exemptions. This outbreak sounds like it's concentrated in an immigrant group and the families probably have some obstacles to getting vaccinated due to poverty, language differences, etc. A lot of times schools and daycares will do conditional admissions where they don't require the vaccine to start attending but tell the families they do need to get the vaccines as soon as possible. Sometimes "as soon as possible" doesn't end up being very soon and kids slip through the cracks.
kdonirb t1_iwverxe wrote
omg, hadn’t even considered the potential spread, with holiday season
EverythingIDidntSay t1_iwvevsu wrote
Thank you for the explanation. Poor children and families.
[deleted] t1_iwvf8e2 wrote
Natural Selection hard at work in Ohio.
zer0saurus t1_iwvf9ix wrote
CDC: are the kids vaccinated?
Ohio: No.
CDC: <shrugs shoulders>
Modern_Bear t1_iwvfct0 wrote
At some point one or more kids came into contact with an unvaccinated person, either a kid who didn't get vaccinated because of bad parenting, or an unvaccinated adult who spread it to a kid/kids, who then spread it to other kids. If we have as close to 100% vaccination as possible (everyone over 12 months old in this case), stuff like this wouldn't happen. Thanks to people who think they know more about epidemiology than the epidemiologists, we can't get to that point. Making America Stupid Again.
Conflixxion t1_iwvfdmu wrote
CDC did help. They outlined the guidelines on safe vaccinations. Not their fault the public ignores them.
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Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvg48v wrote
The more I dig into this, I'm wondering if this outbreak started back in June and is only now being recognized to have fairly significant community spread. It seems a bit strange for it to suddenly be in so many different schools and daycare facilities.
There was an identified imported case in June in a 17-month-old toddler who had traveled out of the country. She would have been eligible for the vaccine earlier in the year, several months prior to the trip, but it sounds like her parents hadn't yet gotten it for her.
>The infected child is from Franklin County and recently traveled to a country with confirmed measles cases, ODH said.
>Columbus Public Health said the child is a 17-month-old female, who is not vaccinated against the virus. The child and her family are isolated at home.
>ODH said the state occasionally sees measles cases as the result of importations from other countries where measles remains endemic.
FartOnAFirstDate t1_iwvg598 wrote
They probably did at one point. Then, a wrestling coach who allowed his own wrestlers to be molested by a team doctor came into power. He wasn’t very bright, but he found that by pulling his glasses halfway down his nose and yelling instead of using the calm speaking voice that he used in his re-election campaign commercials, he could fire up and scare his uneducated constituents. When the state wide lawmakers in his party saw how well that strategy worked, they all adopted it and convinced their own constituents that anything that the reasonable lawmakers from the other party wanted to do to keep people safe and thriving was actually a massive infringement on their freedoms and an attempt to make all of their children gay, transgender and ‘*woke’.
*they don’t actually understand what this term means, but they just know that it’s bad and will cause all of their churches to be taken over by satanic rioters shooting 5G rays at them.
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Heathen_Mushroom t1_iwvgi9r wrote
Which is why kids over 12 months need to be vaccinated and parents who refuse to have their kids vaxxed should be culpable.
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvgnhe wrote
Yes, I'm sure it's very scary for all these families. The silver lining of outbreaks like this is they often boost vaccine uptake because health departments will run mass vaccination events on weekends, etc. to increase vaccine accessibility.
Former-Lab-9451 t1_iwvgnv1 wrote
Daily reminder that prior to the covid vaccine being available, the number of deaths via covid by party registration was about equal.
After the vaccine became available, however, the death rate by covid of registered republicans is double that of registered democrats and that variance has continued to increase.
These people did their own research.
Standard_Gauge t1_iwvgouv wrote
Measles doesn't float through the air between houses magically infecting people. It requires a carrier who sneezes on or touches people who are unvaccinated. Unvaccinated children who ARE old enough to be vaccinated contract measles and spread it to infants and other unvaccinated persons.
People who refuse to vaccinate their children who then cause severe infection in those who can't be vaccinated should be held responsible and face consequences.
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Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvhak8 wrote
Yes, it's possible this all started with this unvaccinated 17-month-old girl who back in June traveled to a country where measles is endemic.
VaIeth t1_iwvhjpo wrote
We are the only era to show our stupidity like this aren't we? Before people didn't get to take the vaccine cause it didn't exist.
SeesHerFacesUnfurl t1_iwvhkp2 wrote
And according to the article, only one of the sick kids was under the age of 4 years old. The other 20 are unvaccinated kids between 4-6 years old.
CPLCraft t1_iwvhm2y wrote
Snip anti-vaxers?
Baron164 t1_iwvid19 wrote
If they keep it up the problem might actually correct itself.
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvj4bk wrote
Yes, it sounds like back in June the parents of a toddler who was several months past eligibility for her first dose took her on a trip to Somalia, maybe, and she contracted measles while there. It's possible that was the start of the community spread and it's only just now being identified.
I'm suspecting Somalia because it's currently experiencing a large number of measles cases, second only to India. Couple that with Columbus having the second-largest Somali community in U.S. and you end up with a challenging situation. I hope the public health authorities can get a handle on this soon.
ubioandmph t1_iwvjcip wrote
The CDC has already helped:
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvjeem wrote
It's actually that none were older than 4 except the one six-year-old.
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Imaginary_Medium t1_iwvma5j wrote
I think people were a little smarter about vaccines when polio vaccine became available. t was a big deal to my parents that we had miraculous vaccines in these modern times thanks to science, to protect kids. That seemed to be the attitude.
Modern_Bear t1_iwvn3e9 wrote
That's pretty bad parenting to not get their kid the recommended vaccines and then go to a country where measles is common.
CatManDeke t1_iwvn7wy wrote
It’s Ohio, is anyone surprised…
acutehypoburritoism t1_iwvnr3y wrote
You are correct, I’m in Columbus and the daycares/schools affected primarily serve Somali communities. That being said, these folks are a minority. I’m in the medical field and have seen far more Somali families taking great care of their children (including following vaccination schedules etc) than not. Really hoping these kiddos pull through, and also that this doesn’t result in indiscriminate hatred being directed at our Somali neighbors.
Edited to add: these families are often ones who encounter systemic barriers to seeking healthcare, and desperately want to do the right things for their children but are not able to afford costs, take time off work to make appointments, or sometimes even be sure that language translation services are available. I volunteer at a free clinic and see folks regularly for late night appointments because that’s the only time they have to see physicians. Blaming only the families in this case isn’t totally accurate, there are likely a lot of systemic failures that have factored into this outcome as well.
Wazula42 t1_iwvnvvy wrote
They won't. This story is fake news. Vaccinated kids die at far higher rates. My cousin's roommates mother in law was healthy and hale and then she got a vaccine and died. It was a car accident but still, makes you think.
Also Joe Rogan told me vaccines are for pussies so y'know.
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvoboo wrote
It is frustrating that this happens. I remember reading about other outbreaks starting the same way. Also, I think even if your baby is between 6-12 months old, many healthcare providers will give your child the vaccine early if they know you're planning this kind of travel with an infant. I just don't know how much awareness of that there is with parents. There definitely needs to be better outreach and education around all of this.
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvq01s wrote
Oh, yes, didn't mean to suggest it was anything other than a minority of parents. And I tend to believe that even the vast majority of the parents who may be struggling to take great care of their kids are not doing so due to ill intent or intentional neglect. I think it's likely an indication of systemic issues rather than individual parental failure.
Also, don't want any hatred at all to be directed toward the Somali community. My only reason for bringing it up is that there will never be solutions to the problems if people don't talk about what's actually happening.
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Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvqwgm wrote
Wholeheartedly agree with your edit. And thank you for volunteering to help these families out!
One thing consistent in the CDC studies they publish every year on vaccine coverage is that the most undervaccinated kids are those living in poverty.
acutehypoburritoism t1_iwvr4vx wrote
Oh no that’s not at all how your comment came off! I just wanted to confirm your suspicions and back up your concerns as someone who’s privy to this issue firsthand. I wish everyone had as thoughtful an approach as you have shown with your reflections.
It’s especially unfortunate timing- Columbus is dealing with a massive surge of RSV, and our local children’s hospital has been so overwhelmed that we are now starting to get overflow patients at the adult ED I’ve been working at this past month. It’s a rough time for all of us, and your approach is reassuring. Folks, get your flu shots too- this is a bad season and I’ve had to hospitalize more previously healthy adults for flu symptom management than I’ve expected, unfortunately we are just getting started. Stay healthy!
Standard_Gauge t1_iwvr5ay wrote
> I think people were a little smarter about vaccines when polio vaccine became available.
The important thing is that everyone at that time knew someone who had complications from polio, some mild, some severe. This made them eager to line up for the vaccine when it became available. My uncle had a lifelong limp from polio, and considered himself lucky that it was just a limp and he lived a pretty much normal life. Same with Mitch McConnell, and forgetting whatever you think of his politics, is a polio survivor with some lifelong consequences (frequently falls on stairs, e.g.) and has never been an anti-vaxxer.
People today often don't know anyone who has had serious aftereffects from preventable diseases. Measles is a case in point. I am in my 60's and had measles as a young child way before there was a vaccine. Almost every child had measles at some point. I can still remember the high fever and I remember my eyes hurting a lot (might have had swelling or something) and my mom putting cold wet cloths over my eyes. As an adult I realized how lucky I was that that was the worst of it. My mom told me that one child in the neighborhood died from encephalitis caused by the measles.
The anti-vaxxers are giddy in their ignorance, and actually believe measles is a nothingburger that every child sails through in a few days. They bizarrely believe that the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease. I wish they would stop reading nonsense from weird woo sources and read some facts, such as measles having been a major cause of deafness in my day.
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwvrzi8 wrote
I hear things have been rough but I bet it's harder than us civilians can even imagine. Hang in there. My daughter got sick a couple weeks back. Turned out she had Covid and Flu A at the same time.
This year is crazy and I'm also worried that the worst is yet to come. Someone in my local sub posted this week about pertussis running through their family. The scary thing is their child had been vaccinated only a few months ago and the parents were both vaccinated about a year ago and they still got sick.
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p001b0y t1_iwvtvko wrote
This is what makes me angriest, I think. Some day, these parents are going to have to explain to their kid what caused their deafness or other lasting issue, that it was preventable or avoidable, and that they decided to risk their kids' health any way. Because some guy on Facebook or Twitter was getting paid to spread this misinformation.
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Imaginary_Medium t1_iwvux88 wrote
You and I are probably fairly close in age. You are surely right about people today not having personal memories of the devastation caused by some of these diseases in the past, though they seem to have a bit of a short term memory problem when it comes to Covid. Maybe they are the ones who didn't have their lives turned upside down by the loss of a family member, or were in denial.
I worry about these anti-vaxxers, there seem to be so many, and measles is indeed not to be trifled with. Do you think our society will ever regain its respect for real science at some point? I don't expect to live to see it, but I hope it happens.
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Standard_Gauge t1_iwvwcxj wrote
> Do you think our society will ever regain its respect for real science at some point? I don't expect to live to see it, but I hope it happens
One manifestation of the "civil war" that folks allude to is a huge divide between critical thinkers and science-educated vs. magical thinking, "I saw it on YouTube so it must be true" types. Unfortunately the science deniers can do far more damage to the critical thinkers than vice versa.
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Imaginary_Medium t1_iwvz0se wrote
And they certainly are doing damage. I personally enjoy the internet, but my god, there is so much garbage out there, and it spreads. I wish knowledge would, but people seem to find it less entertaining.
destruc786 t1_iww0smo wrote
Natural Selection vs Dumb Republicans Anti-vaxxers.
MagikSkyDaddy t1_iww15iy wrote
Charge the parents with endangering children and the community.
Their ignorance is a public threat.
lIlHYPERIONlIl t1_iww1cy0 wrote
Don't they know there is a vaccine for that
jschubart t1_iww1p4u wrote
No. People fought against the small pox vaccine too.
Jellyfish1297 t1_iww1y7x wrote
The article wasn’t clear what help they wanted from the CDC, but it might provide additional services like open vaccine clinics or something.
A few years ago, a fast food worker at a place near my old job was diagnosed with hepatitis. It was unlikely he infected anyone, but it was possible. The CDC arranged for mass hepatitis vaccinations at the local health department for anyone who thought they may have been exposed.
financequestionsacct t1_iww3gdx wrote
It's unnatural. Nature intended for children to get disfiguring cow pox and that's why I expose my children to infected cattle instead of that toxic poison, like God intended. /s
financequestionsacct t1_iww3m11 wrote
I hate to say it, but as a person who was medically neglected in childhood, a lot of them won't explain and also don't care.
p001b0y t1_iww49h9 wrote
That is awful. I am sorry.
crackrabbit012 t1_iww6gwe wrote
I live here and no, not surprised just disappointed
skeetsauce t1_iww6txr wrote
Vaccines is how George Soros is going to get my children to be trans with the CRT.
nubsauce87 t1_iww98do wrote
If you refuse to vaccinate your child, you should be charged with child abuse.
It's just as bad as refusing to pull your child out of the path of a speeding car, or intentionally throwing them through a plate glass window.
JohnnyUtah_QB1 t1_iwwbe26 wrote
A West African born slave named Onesimus taught the practice of inoculation to his ignorant Boston owner in the 1720s when epidemics regularly swept through the colonies killing scores(this form of inoculation was the precursor to vaccines and works on similar principles).
When his owner tried to promote the practice he was met with vitriol, getting a brick thrown through his window and having papers like the New England Courant basically read like Fox News irrationally frothing at the mouth at the whole idea. By the end of the outbreak the 280 inoculated members of Boston suffered 6 deaths(2.2%) whereas 850 of 5900 non-inoculated patients died(14%)
Half a century later General George Washington unilaterally ordered the inoculation of his troops without seeking permission in part because there was still a significant contingent of the Continental Congress against the practice, with some colonies still outlawing it. He wanted to keep the operation secret from the British, but he also didn’t want to deal with clowns in Philadelphia getting dumb about it.
Unfortunately history suggests we are just this stupid as a species. Even hundreds of years ago it was still the same story
Imaginary-Fun-80085 t1_iwwbir9 wrote
Wait, the CDC? Aren't those the guys who want to inject us with <insert poison name here>. /s
Imaginary-Fun-80085 t1_iwwbryu wrote
I mean there's a lot of answers to this problem. Take their kids away. let the kids die. If they learn their lesson the next kids won't be in danger, if they don't then let more kids die or take more kids away.
danonymous26125 t1_iwwfsm6 wrote
All the parents should be jailed.
danonymous26125 t1_iwwfwi2 wrote
Problem with measles, they may have "snipped" their children. At least the males.
Iohet t1_iwwg3yx wrote
Antivaxxers don't have any particular association with circumcision I'm aware of, if that's what you're getting at
danonymous26125 t1_iwwgbx2 wrote
No, a side effect of measles for boys is that it can result in infertility. I meant "snipped" as in sterilized. Their stupidity could prevent their kids from reproducing. Wait: I think I'm getting it mixed with mumps. Yeah, I was. Mumps, a disease vaxxed against alongside measles, can cause male infertility.
LaLionneEcossaise t1_iwwimwd wrote
A former coworker didn’t want her child to get the polio series because “no one gets polio!” I tried explaining that the reason so few people get polio is because the vaccine prevents it, but she was certain her “facts” were correct.
big_nothing_burger t1_iwwjgqk wrote
Ohio probably has one of the worst vaccination rates,...sooo...
shebazz42 t1_iwwk0to wrote
Then what the hell disease causes circumcisions?
danonymous26125 t1_iwwk3w1 wrote
Phimosis and paraphimosis, also religion.
MeOnCrack t1_iwwlc6r wrote
Well, has it been tested extensively? 50 years isn't enough to know the side aeffects!?! This is just another case of big pharma expediting vaccines down the public's throat. Next thing you know, they'll be requiring kids to be vaccinated for measles before school. Freaking kids! Someone think of the children please!
PuellaBona t1_iwwn8ax wrote
Making the children gay, transgendered, and woke!?! They're onto us!
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Accurate_Zombie_121 t1_iwwr9kd wrote
Clinics have been closed do to covid this fall? News to me. Parents have the responsibilty to protect their children. They dropped the ball. Blaming somebody else doesn't help your kid.
DanYHKim t1_iwwsw93 wrote
In a Facebook post by an anti-vaccine mother, I commented that people should stop attacking her lifestyle choice.
"She had decided to have a more traditional life and family in which she will bear eight or so children so perhaps two or three will survive to adulthood. Good luck, lady!"
mces97 t1_iwwwgzz wrote
Measles makes prior immunity to other viruses get wiped out. So, even if they got vaccinated for anything else, poof, all gone.
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Hefty_Musician2402 t1_iwwyafa wrote
Might wanna add a /s in case the anti vaxxers try to use your sarcastic anecdote as part of their “rEsEaRcH”
drakesylvan t1_iwx072a wrote
How about you vaccinate your fucking kids?
robreddity t1_iwx0pf8 wrote
Please help CDC!
What the fuck are they supposed to do?
DwarvenRedshirt t1_iwx3yy8 wrote
It could also be that multiple families travelled to Kenya at around the same time and brought it back.
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Sirerdrick64 t1_iwx6tky wrote
I read this as “snipe”
I’ll get hatred for saying it, but I’m fine either way.
mysistersaid t1_iwx7028 wrote
If only there was a shot for that.
BruisedPurple t1_iwx81i7 wrote
I couldn't get my kid into daycare or preschool without proof of an MMR vaccination , how did these parents pull it off?
JohnnyUtah_QB1 t1_iwx9u0d wrote
It’s so bizarre. Humans have been successfully using “injections” to protect against disease for at least a thousand years,(back then it was live virus and human pus, today it’s highly refined and engineered nanomachines)
Like these people exist in a different reality, just total ignorance of all their own ancestors learned, destined to repeat the same obvious mistakes.
PopularRepublic9 t1_iwxacmd wrote
Simple , homeschooling unfortunately
wabashcanonball t1_iwxcc0z wrote
Antivaxxers are child abusers. Take their kids away.
missyanntx t1_iwxd8bv wrote
Right?!
Real answer, they'll probably help with contact tracing.
Aromatic-Ad7816 t1_iwxi8ay wrote
Not vaccinating children against measles, smallpox and polio needs to start being treated like child endangerment. Just because the parents are stupid enough to believe online nonsense and let irrational fear govern their choices doesn't mean we let the kids suffer for it.
TintedApostle t1_iwxi8hj wrote
Call me when the right wing circle of outrage moves past "Vaccines are dangerous" position and reaches back to the "why isn't the government doing anything about this?" position.
Aromatic-Ad7816 t1_iwxigfw wrote
Nah i haven't ever seen them use reddit as the source for anything. It must not meet their gold standard of youtube videos, facebook memes, twitter anecdotes and poorly written blogs.
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwxipps wrote
Yes, that is definitely possible.
proteannomore t1_iwxiu71 wrote
My information may be outdated, but Ohio Revised Code had a provision that allowed a parent to opt out of mandatory vaccinations, if the parent/guardian claimed a 'medical, religious, or philosophical exemption'.
meatball77 t1_iwxj8y3 wrote
You just have to say you don't believe in them.
meatball77 t1_iwxjc2p wrote
No one is vaccinated against smallpox
Aromatic-Ad7816 t1_iwxjn9w wrote
I meant the other parts of MMR. Had just read an article about the eradication of smallpox. Disconnect between brain and fingers.
meatball77 t1_iwxk9ra wrote
Nah. . . Measles isn't that bad. Better to get the disease than the vaccine. The vaccine is what will kill you.
Oh, and now they're even better. They think being around people who have been vaccinated will kill them.
These people are so stupid. Being sick sucks. I'll take a vaccine for anything.
meatball77 t1_iwxkjd3 wrote
You forgot their sisters friend whose kid DIED from a vaccine. That sister's friend also has a kid whose school has litter boxes for kids who identify as cats.
meatball77 t1_iwxknfb wrote
It's even worse when you have people who are traveling internationally who don't vaccinate.
Aromatic-Ad7816 t1_iwxkxdf wrote
Or their neighbor who died from the vaccine a day after falling off a roof. Or their third cousin-in-law twice removed who got a heart condition from it when they were perfectly healthy with hypertension and obesity prior to the shot.
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meatball77 t1_iwxmhsr wrote
Mumps and Rubella. Rubella is a quite mild disease. Unless your are pregnant and then it will kill your baby.
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Geodestamp t1_iwxnj2k wrote
Also, babies don't get the measles vaccine until they are 15 months or later if they are late because of illness.
Geodestamp t1_iwxno44 wrote
What can they do? Seriously, they can't arrest antivaxers.
Aromatic-Ad7816 t1_iwxny5u wrote
Well conservatives are true to their names. They want to conserve how things used to be - a time where only half of children made it to 5 and a successful pregnancy was more or less a diceroll.
meatball77 t1_iwxq0jw wrote
Freebirth, where it's ok if the kid is "born sleeping" because it's a good experience for the mother.
Autumnwood t1_iwxsuk7 wrote
We didn't have the MMR vaccine when I was little. People got measles and mumps. I didn't and also didn't know anyone who did but we heard of cases. I'm from Ohio. My mom's generation and prior dealt with rubella more. I remember her talking about that.
I'm assuming we (kids in my generation) got vaccinated at some point but don't remember. I do remember getting the polio oral ....we all had to go to the cafeteria and we lined up and had to sit and the nurse administered. That must have been a crazy day for the nurses!
trinquin t1_iwxywmf wrote
RSV is running rampant and Fox ran a story about how the Biden Administration isnt doing anything about it..
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tikierapokemon t1_iwxzoic wrote
Or you are like me and it triggers early onset arthritis, and you get the kind of arthritis your relatives have in their 50s at in your teens. (Rubella).
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Durdens_Wrath t1_iwy4euj wrote
> Had just read an article about the eradication of smallpox
Oh Im sure it will make a comeback, like polio
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Durdens_Wrath t1_iwy4oj2 wrote
Shame Covid wasnt a little more deadly
Durdens_Wrath t1_iwy4soc wrote
If they die, they die.
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spacemoses t1_iwyghl7 wrote
So like, if drug companies could get a vaccine delivered in pill form would it make these people feel better? I didn't hear a damn thing about Paxlovid from the antivax crowd.
[deleted] t1_iwyh26o wrote
Religion wants to be part of this then religion needs to start paying taxes
Surly_Cynic OP t1_iwyou8u wrote
There was a separate measles vaccine when I was a younger kid, I believe. I’m guessing I got that because I never had the measles and don’t remember it going around in my peer group. I did get the mumps and my siblings did too, I think.
I eventually got the MMR when I was middle school or high school age and I think it may have even been at a school vaccination clinic set up for the students. There is a subset of vaccine-hesitant parents who object to the MMR but say they would vaccinate for measles if a measles-only vaccine was still available.
continuousQ t1_iwyq6b7 wrote
Also stop imposing their beliefs on children. If they're not old enough to choose for themselves, then they are not of a religion.
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“I dunked my new born baby and now they’re saved”
..sooo that kid can do whatever they want in life and they’ll go to heaven?
What about this 4 yr old, if he dies will he go to heaven? He wasn’t dunked yet.
I love religious rules.
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HardlyDecent t1_iwz0wle wrote
Never mind that there are hardly any religions that actually forbid vaccinations or bathing or any other standard medical practices.
HardlyDecent t1_iwz0yuw wrote
No problem here.
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FaktCheckerz t1_iwzf649 wrote
Somehow this became a political issue lol.
daedalis2020 t1_iwzgk9b wrote
Good news, most people I know who embrace ignorance and conspiracy theories are also completely uninterested in world travel or experiencing anything outside of the local chic-fil-a
phairbornphenom t1_ix0u4x4 wrote
It's not double.
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iqbalpratama t1_ix3fmtw wrote
> polio
I'm an Indonesian and after so many years of being declared "polio-free," we just had one new polio case in a child which "never received ANY vaccination." This happened in a highly conservative province where vaccination rates had been constantly plummetting for years......
We are this close to eradicating polio but these kind of things kept happening because some fool refused to vaccinate their kids due to whatever flawed logic / belief they had......
See_You_Space_Coyote t1_ix6nhfh wrote
Not vaccinating your kids (unless they have a medical reason why they can't get vaccinated) should be considered child abuse.
imperfcet t1_ix77ft6 wrote
It won't, because they already have 6 unvaccinated grandchildren by the time they die at 40 because they can't get birth control, sex ed, or abortions.
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Accurate_Zombie_121 t1_iwv7jq5 wrote
"All cases are in unvaccinated children" I found the problem. And I know the solution.