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Yay Kansas. Seems like republicans went a little too far with the whole abortion thing. A few weeks ago, Kansas, voting “in dramatic numbers and by an overwhelming margin, rejected a ballot measure that would have allowed lawmakers to ban abortion in the state.”

It seems like the residents of Kansas remember the great republican experiment and said "Nope fuck that shit"! Good stuff!

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As in many states, the popular vote represents urban areas.

See 2018 by township. The blue is mostly urban and city suburb.

Yeah but we still have to do with Kris Kobach so it’s not all exciting.

Yeah. Thank God that land can't vote.

I wonder how Mitch feels about stealing Obama's Supreme Court appointment now. I bet if he put Merrick Garland up for a vote back then, there would have never been a reversal of RvW. There would have been a lot more complacent Democrats who didn't bother voting, and he would be preparing to take the gavel away from Chuck right now.

They could also have used a series of cases to gradually weaken Roe with better reasoning. People would not have reacted so strongly. GOP created an unaccountable monster that got away from them. They love that mistake apparently.

I'm sure he feels great. Why wouldn't he?

The land is over-represented in every other respect: state legislatures, congressional seats, senate seats for low pop states.

That land has a megaphone in our government.

Seriously. As nice as this election was for democrats it still doesn't give them any ability to stop the Supreme Court from ruling States can do whatever they want with elections next year.

Your first mistake was assuming McConnell is capable of feeling shame.

If Trump had quietly gone away and not endorsed a bunch of objectively bad candidates and elections deniers GOP would have won the election and abortion would be largely irrelevant. Dr. Oz almost won in Pennsylvania despite not being from there, having zero political experience, and making constant gaffes. Herschel Walker still might win in Georgia despite being possibly the least qualified Senate nominee from a major party ever.

All the more vexing because we left KS to get away from the political BS. And moved to AZ.

Out of the frying pan, into the fire. Figuratively and literally.

Yes. That's where the people live. Crops don't vote.

> If Trump had quietly gone away

If Trump did this and just invested Fred Trump's $400m in the S&P, he'd be an actual billionaire rather than being in the red and constantly on the grift. But noooooo.

now, if we could only get them to talk some sense into their cousin, ar-kansas.

He probably feels really happy that he has a supreme court that will do whatever republicans want them to do. They're going to go after gay marriage and contraceptives next. He literally said that.

It can't. But most of that land is also now owned by corporations. A lot of it isn't even populated, which is why I think there has to be a better way to illustrate demographics.

Many people were wondering "What does Trump have on all these guys, that they'd all roll over for him?" Must be some serious kompromat. In retrospect, I think Trump just said "I'll give you a supreme court that's guaranteed to dump Roe vs. Wade, and you can all claim a huge victory forever." And that happened. He put people on the court who have no business being anywhere near a bench, let alone the highest court in the nation. No great wall, no beautiful health plan, no tax returns, no magical vanishing plague - nothing he promised the nation occurred. But he delivered on his behind-closed-doors promise.

It's well known that crops are very politically irresponsible after all.

Maybe dots in those areas that would represent population. So relatively empty spaces would have a small dots far apart and cities would have lots of dots jammed together.

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He and his donors feel great. They know their agenda is unpopular but are getting it passed through the courts regardless.

Repubs when you’re losing KS you might want to rethink that whole nazi thing, turns people off

You can thank Johnson and Douglas counties. But, honestly, she really deserved to win. One of their best Governors.

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Would you have win a 4 year term or a lifetime appointment. Tough decision

> Would you have win a 4 year term or a lifetime appointment.

Not sure I understand, apologies.

Kkkris kkkobach

It was not a few weeks ago, it was three months ago.

Too bad that Nazi fuck Kris Kobach won

I'm agreeing with you just putting it another way.

“You’re a loser, Donnie! A loser!”

• Fred Trump probably

Yeah, I was too hopeful to think Mann would win

That's what I figured, I just couldn't understand the sentence.

He put in a court that is going to allow the GOP to fix elections for decades to come, he feels great.

Did you mean rather?

>Would you rather win a 4 year term, or a lifetime appointment? Tough decision

Yeah i knew it was going to be a tough race but i figured my fellow Kansans would take notice of just what a shitty person Kobach is and boot him out, guess not

Here’s the thing about that vote though. The republican Kansas legislature put that up for vote in primary and deliberately convoluted the wording in hopes of misleading democrats and independents. In all likelihood they confused the fuck out of anti-choice voters.

The people who voted for Kelly but then didn't vote against or voted for Kobach are baffling to me

I hope TFG sees this comment, i imagine it’d be very triggering & I daydream about being there to point and laugh😂

I remember in 2017 Trump made him head of a voter fraud commission because he was convinced there were 3 million illegal votes.

Yeah and then nothing was found and the courts ordered him to stop harassing people

I’m a bit more baffled by the fact that Kansas said no to an abortion ban by such a large margin and still chose one of the most anti-abortion candidates in the country. It feels like having an (R) next to your name is a cheat code to say whatever you want with no repercussions.

I know it’s pretty much certain when a news station calls the races like this but I wish they’d put “projects” at the first part of the sentence

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> and Maryland, California and Massachusetts, all of whom are sold democratic controlled have had Republican governors in the recent history.

Vermont just re-elected its Republican Governor with nearly 70% of the vote. 70%! In Bernie Sanders’ state!

If things were remotely normal people would be talking about Phil Scott as an obvious presidential contender. But everyone knows he couldn’t win a GOP primary since he’s not foaming at the mouth to burn trans people at the stake or whatever

Republicans are so big on states rights but blue governors and legislatures aren't gonna take kindly to that shit. If Republicans wanna push the envelope, overturn elections and steal Congress then hopefully Democrats adapt because there really isn't any other choice. It's that or we allow ourselves to be steamrolled by the fascists.

I really dread that Moore v. Harper ruling and at this point with our far-right 6-3 SC it seems like a foregone conclusion. It would be more practical to think about solutions / workarounds and I'm sure there are politicians in DC that have thought about this. Time will tell.

Trump nominated them for the SC. The entire Republican party confirmed them and put them there.

Trump nominated them for the SC. The entire Republican party confirmed them and put them there.

...yes? the votes are where the people are - what's your point?

Because he's 170 years old and even turtles shouldn't live that long.

I'd say he would never read this far down in the Reddit comments, but it's not like he has Being President to take up his time, so maybe...

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R-kansas

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I was able to vote for Kelly and Davids before I moved to MO. Brownback really left the state in shambles and she’s had a lot of wins since she’s been in office most notably getting schools funded adequately. I was worried for a while but happy to see a Dem in Topeka.

Don't forget the balanced budget!

And the new Panasonic plant!

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I wish we could have a say in things like this in Texas… 😒

Damn it's like every person has a vote. Who the hell cares what the land with nobody on it thinks?

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I'm in Maryland, and Democrat Wes Moore overwhelmingly beat his challenger Dan Cox for governor. Cox is a Trump supporter endorsed by Agent Orange. Even though we are considered a blue state, there's pockets of conservatives, and the county I live in is one of those pockets. Also, the outgoing Republican governor, Larry Hogan, was a moderate who couldn't stand Trump.

I'm so fucking pissed about this. I really wanted that weasel to eat shit, again, and lose another election, again.

And Joan Finney before Sibelius. Dennis Moore was in House of Rep about 10 years. He was a Dem. People do make good decisions sometime. KS is not the monolithic R stronghold that media types want to portray often especially urban areas.

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Oh good. Now Derek will stop texting me every few hours.

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Same here

And now he's the only one with power to remove Sheriffs.

The KS governorship has been going back and forth for the past 50 years.

We should work on age and term limits. Wizen old people, going back to Washington, year after year, to curry favors from lobbyists, inside trade and make decisions that effect other people organs that they buried years ago.

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They're also dangerously close to taking away a lot of her Powe. So...

Regardless, a vote for a democrat and not a Qanon/Trumper pick is harm reduction for this country, a vote for sanity/democratic fair elections, and an affront to this "I'm a TV guy/former athlete... maybe I should run for shit I'm woefully unqualified for?" thing that the GOP has ratcheted up once more in the wake of Trump's first term.

Douglas County / LFK voter here, we do what we can. Glad to see Laura re-elected, I think she’s doing a great job.

Are you a Kansan?

Zero disagreement. Kelly is a win for lots of reasons. I just don't understand the dichotomy

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Sharice Davids (female, openly gay, Native American) was elected to a third term in HOR despite the extreme gerrymandering that was done to her by the Republican legislature last session post census. And yes Johnson, Sedgwick, and Wyandotte counties are urban. Maybe doesn’t fit your idea of urban but they are. And no pundits were expecting the recent abortion vote. So not so monolithic.

It would be 5-4 still.

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Reminds me of 2018 where Republican Governor Charlie Baker won by a bigger margin than Senator Elizabeth Warren did that year.

Same with MA. Republican was a Trumper and he got soundly defeated.

The northeast loves its Rockefeller Republicans but they are basically extinct now.

Cause you don’t know anything.

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A straight yes or no vote on a single issue is less prone to party loyalty. I'm ready to bet a lot of people who voted no on the ban then elected Kobach are from families that have voted red for generations and they've never met a liberal in their lives.

I really like how some states that go hard red or blue on the national races flip it in reverse for the governorship.

My theory is that voters generally distrust both political parties and want some balance in there to force some accountability and pragmatism.

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The Oklahoma governors race was actually competitive this year. That's insane.

My theory is that people like a governor who can veto the worse excess of their own party. Phil Scott vetoed a bill to legalize sex work which of course, had it passed, would have turned Vermont into the sex tourism destination for the entire East Coast.

It’s simple- tell people what they want to hear and they tune in. The same can be said for hearing things you’re not quite ready to hear.

It’s not a projection at this point, it’s mathematically certain

Republicans aren't big on states' rights.

If prioritizing the state over individual rights gives them the outcome they want, they say "States' rights."

If not, they wield the Federal Government just as much as Democrats.

Wait tell you see LaTurner in action, dude is a massive conservative Catholic. He's got his friends posting stuff all over about anti abortion, pro life, impossible to be a Catholic and vote dem. He is a huge violation of church and state separation and I'm fucking humiliated that he got voted in by my district.

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we're like the almost-swing-state, but not quite

this is excellent. it's also because she's been a great governor. huge contrast to brownback. the videos of ted cruz getting boo'd are childsplay compared to all the times brownback got booed at nearly every public even he attended. never again, hopefully

I'd say he would never read* fixed it for you.

Trump doesnt have an agenda. He doesnt care about nor understand policy.

As an outsider looking in, I can't fathom why anyone in America who isn't in the 1% would vote Republican. Even compared to my countries right wing party, the Republican party seems cartoonishly evil.

You're witnessing the fruits of the GOP destroying public education over the past 40+ years. Worse yet a good portion of Americans have seem to have lost their ability to think critically as well.

Yep, I had an American friend tell me earlier today that "Joe Rogan is a good person by society's standards".

Ugh... and that is the reason why I fear for our countries future.

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My home state finally making long term strides in a good direction. Kansas is a perfect example of why voting is important. So many say "my vote doesn't matter so why waste the effort." Thats what they want you to think though. Truth is if everyone who felt that way just voted things could really change.

Mist isn't wrong though (am Kansan here). With our political system generally valuing land mass more than population at this point (nationally), Kansas is and remains a GOP stronghold on both the state and federal levels due to how consolidated democratic areas (Wichita... barely, and the KC metro) are. Granted, more often than not its not foaming at the mouth Trump country (I think Brownback was a good lead off to move us away from that) but there is definitely republican dominating ideals in our politics and governing. We thankfully tend to have strong non-elected public servants who know how to work within confines to get things done in responsible and egalitarian manners generally, plus home rule, helps to counter act the crazy talking points like "Sue Joe Biden" (for what exactly?) with no standing.

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I'm a Kansan, and they are correct...most of Kansas is rural republican except Wichita and JoCo areas.

Red wave my ass. Suck it, rethuglicans.

> I wonder how Mitch feels about stealing Obama's Supreme Court appointment now.

Unless a conservative dies in the next 2 years (or 2 months, depending on the GA runoff), McConnell is going to spend the rest of his life seeing a 6-3, or worse, SCOTUS that he made happen. If he had to give that up in exchange for a Senate majority for a few years he wouldn't ever make that trade because he's one of many working towards a long term goal and judicial capture is a major factor in making permanent minority rule by Republicans a possibility.

To be fair, a Vermont Republican and a Kansas Democrat are probably both rather moderate, out of necessity.

They also had Brownback as governor