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unclecaveman1 t1_iwgilwe wrote

Reply to comment by Jim_from_GA in Navy, Coast Guard stop ship with 180 tons of Iranian explosive materials by millennium-wisdom

It wasn’t the US coast guard. It was the US Navy and Coast Guard.

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Jim_from_GA t1_iwgj166 wrote

My understanding is that is the US Coast Guard and the US Navy. Help me understand how it is not.

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Jim_from_GA t1_iwgl69r wrote

Thanks for all the info about the mission of the Coast Guard and thank you to all that have, do and will serve in it.

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reflUX_cAtalyst t1_iwgnmi5 wrote

Not anymore. US Coast Guard is under the Department of Homeland Security. They used to be under the Navy but not anymore.

EDIT: Since 2003. Coast Guard is not under the Department of Defense at all. https://www.uso.org/stories/2799-what-does-the-coast-guard-do-and-7-coast-guard-facts-to-know Point number 2. Not DoD.

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Noahdl88 t1_iwgz8ys wrote

Since 1945, prior to 2003 it was DOT, and for some time before that it was the Department of the Treasury.

Only during a declared war, and subject to the direction of the president, does the CG become a function of the navy.

They are separate because they have totally different mission sets, one fights wars, the other one protects our national interests though maritime security, safety, environmental protection, and treaty enforcement.

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SmokeyUnicycle t1_iwgncte wrote

The Coast Guard does play a role I don't know why people are saying it's not.

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iamtoe t1_iwgkg4o wrote

Yeah I looked up the ship to confirm, USCGC John Scheuerman, definitely a US Coast Guard ship. Brand new too, was just commissioned in February. Why in the hell are we sending our coast guard ships to the other side of the world. Thats what the Navy is for.

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SmokeyUnicycle t1_iwgnpdw wrote

This comes from a misunderstanding of what the Coast Guard is for.

Maritime trade is what makes the world economy run and the US is the biggest part of that economy.

The Coast Guard has a responsibility to maintaining shipping lanes as safe and secure, and enforcing international law such as UN sanctions.

They can also be roped in by the Navy for military purposes when necessary but I'm not sure if that happened here or not.

Regardless the US Coast Guard operates all over the world

https://www.uscg.mil/About/Force-Laydown/

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unclecaveman1 t1_iwgnpzg wrote

Coast Guard serves as the maritime law enforcement arm of the Navy when matters of war are involved.

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unclecaveman1 t1_iwgknin wrote

The US Coast Guard is the maritime policing wing of US military. It acts under the control of the Navy when matters of war are considered. As this supposedly involves an ongoing conflict, I imagine they had jurisdiction in that area. In peacetime the Coast Guard acts under the DHS so it would have nothing to do with waters in the Gulf of Yemen.

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reflUX_cAtalyst t1_iwgnstd wrote

They are under DHS completely now. They separated from the Navy entirely in 2003. The US Coast Guard is not controlled by the Department of Defense at all.

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unclecaveman1 t1_iwgok2l wrote

Tell that to the Coast Guard, I don’t think they know.

https://www.gocoastguard.com/about-the-coast-guard/learn-the-history

“In times of peace, the Coast Guard operates as part of the Department of Homeland Security, enforcing the nation's laws at sea, protecting the marine environment, guarding the nation's vast coastline and ports, and performing vital life saving missions. In times of war, or at the direction of the President, the Coast Guard serves under the Department of the Navy, defending the nation against terrorism and foreign threats.”

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Curbside_Hero t1_iwguf1y wrote

While that is true, this is not one of those times where the CG is operating under the Navy. That has not happened since WWII.

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Inappropriateangel t1_iwi78pr wrote

If you scroll down like 2 inches on that link, it actually has a timeline of which departments the coast guard was under at what time with dates and states that the coast guard is now fully under Homeland security now.

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SmokeyUnicycle t1_iwgngh0 wrote

It is also a law enforcement agency so it has the responsibility of enforcing things like maritime sanctions.

I'm not sure under which capacity it's operating under but I don't really think it matters

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sevotlaga t1_iwgo9so wrote

The article specifically names US coast guard ship John Scheuerman.

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unclecaveman1 t1_iwgosp4 wrote

Yes, I was pointing out it was a joint affair. Not that it matters, the coast guard deals with maritime law and defending from foreign threats and terrorism, and was working in an official capacity as law enforcement with the navy.

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