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Apprehensive_Ad1744 t1_ixj73oy wrote

Yeah, I don't actually support even self-imposed voter suppression; it sets a terrible precedent, and will only exacerbate the baseless claims of electoral malfeasance the Republicans will predictably make if they lose, further weakening our democracy.

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PokemonSapphire t1_ixje13s wrote

If they win I bet they'll say the general election was rigged that's why they did so poorly in it leading to a runoff. At this point if they think lying about the election will benefit them they will do it regardless of the facts.

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impy695 t1_ixjlkpz wrote

The election is always rigged, when they win, it was rigged because it should have been a blow out. Both Trump and Bolsonaro made comments like that the last time they each won.

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PokemonSapphire t1_ixjmhgm wrote

Yeah that's my point they're gonna bitch and moan about it no matter what we do. If they wanna make a galaxy brain move and hurt themselves in their own confusion I say we let them.

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impy695 t1_ixjn51a wrote

It wouldn't be the first time they've done it. Their messaging about not trusting elections probably caused a lot of Republicans to not vote (just speculation).

I also read a report that looked at expected political affiliation and death rates of covid by population and there was a bug enough gap in the right states that it could have given trump the win.

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PokemonSapphire t1_ixjocw1 wrote

I would fully believe their rhetoric hurt them enough in the last two elections it caused them to lose. It could be the mainstream republicans know this and is why they're trying to distance themselves from Trump and the election conspiracy stuff now.

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Different-Music4367 t1_ixke5z7 wrote

It's not setting a precedent at all; it's a continuation of the same Republican rhetoric and tactics around voter suppression that they've been running on for over a quarter of a century.

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Apprehensive_Ad1744 t1_ixkhjy6 wrote

Republican officials suppressing Republican votes would be a new one.

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Different-Music4367 t1_ixkifbq wrote

Not really, recent data shows that more Republicans have died from Covid than Democrats. So plenty of Republican policies have already led to the suppression of Republican votes to a permanent end.

To be serious though, vote suppression for Republicans has similar logic as running attack ads--it brings votes down for both candidates, but on the whole the net result favors your side.

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Apprehensive_Ad1744 t1_ixkk92i wrote

Yes, voter suppression by design disproportionately suppresses the vote of one group over another. Not sure what your point is?

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Different-Music4367 t1_ixkld67 wrote

I'm responding to your comment about "suppressing Republican votes," and how there's nothing new about Republicans suppressing Republican votes as a means of suppressing even more Democratic votes, even if only in theory and it potentially backfiring.

Not sure what you are confused about, but this conversation feels like it's kind of going in circles. Take care buddy .

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Apprehensive_Ad1744 t1_ixkrmw0 wrote

I was talking about Republicans specifically targeting Republican majorities with voter suppression being a new thing. You're saying it's not because when Republicans have targeted Democrat majorities with voter suppression, a small number of Republicans were affected via collateral damage.

I have no idea why you think an incidental amount collateral damage is the same thing as being the large, explicit target, but that's where the confusion comes from.

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