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[deleted] t1_ixwdsd4 wrote

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PartyLikeAByzantine t1_ixxn65p wrote

>If a DA or their prosecutors could be trusted, we would not need to have jury trials.

I know you're quoting someone else, but that's beyond horseshit. It is a complete misunderstanding of trials. It is possible (indeed, common) to have an honest dispute of the facts of a case. That is the purpose of a jury: to be neutral, independent arbiters of facts. That is why civil suits (which usually do not involve the state as a litigant) also go to jury trial.

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[deleted] t1_ixwefjm wrote

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JohnHwagi t1_ixwhxhz wrote

I’ve not claimed this actor is innocent nor guilty, nor made any comments about that specific attorney. These comments apply to the common law justice systems as a whole.

District and defense attorneys are adversarial figures, and should always be viewed with distrust due to their goals. Neither a DA nor a defense attorney is inherently interested in “justice”. They’re interested in winning their case, and only by putting those two interests against each other do we have enough information for a decision to be made by an impartial third party (the jury).

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[deleted] t1_ixwivrf wrote

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JohnHwagi t1_ixwkp7q wrote

Yeah, but the idea of whether someone has been charged or not is meaningless in determining their guilt within common law systems. The accusation itself and the denial is the only relevant part currently. Whether there are additional accusers or a way to corroborate this accusation will be used to determine his guilt at trial. The fact that he was charged is explicitly ignored as evidence for obvious reasons.

On the topic of prosecutors being general fuckups, Bill Cosby was not charged during multiple investigations before he was first brought to trial. Ray Rice punched a woman in an elevator on a recoding that prosecutors had, and they did not press charges until public outcry forced them to much later. Given that these decisions are often so obviously wrong, in favor of and against defendants, we should not give the decisions made at these offices credence.

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