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who-dee-knee1 t1_ixo7sgt wrote

Reply to comment by Dangerous--D in Top Iran footballer arrested at club for ‘spreading propaganda against the state’ by rishcast

Kurdistan is a nation left out of the map when Great Britain and France redrew the boundaries of the Middle East after WWI. It comprises parts of Iraq, Iran, Turkey, and Syria. In many regions, the Kurds very much have their own governing body, and they have since been trying to become a completely independent nation. Obviously authoritarian regimes like Iran and Saddam’s Iraqi government don’t like that, as they don’t want to give up any of their countries boundaries. Ghafouri doesn’t seem to be supporting Kurdish independence, just doesn’t want people being killed. Of course, Iran piece of shit officials are going to twist it as “spreading propaganda against the state,” which clearly it isn’t. Hoping for the safety and well-being of Ghafouri. 🙏

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censored_username t1_ixov20c wrote

And not to forget, a bit reason why all of those countries don't want to give up that land is that the area kurdistan would cover is very rich in oil.

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DaoFerret t1_ixp2z6j wrote

Also worth mentioning that the Kurds in Afghanistan had been faithful Allies to the US … till Trump pulled troops back and let Turkey attack them: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-betrayal-of-the-kurds-927545/amp/

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Arcadess t1_ixpmmz5 wrote

>Also worth mentioning that the Kurds in Afghanistan

I know what you meant, but those Kurds live in Syria.
Kurdistan is a region at the borders of Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey.

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Krillin113 t1_ixpw7fm wrote

Countries in general don’t want to give up territories because it opens up an insane can of worms. Also if Kurdistan were to United, there’d be insane civil war; Iraqi, Iranian, Turkish and Syrian Kurds vary significantly

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Desmaad t1_ixowqel wrote

Dissent is treachery to those types, anyway.

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souquemsabes t1_ixpvuwf wrote

Don´t forget Erdogan from Turkey, a Kurd hater since long time ago...

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maybeex t1_ixq49pr wrote

Kurds in Turkey and Iraq are allies of Erdogan. Half of the Kurds in Turkey vote for him.

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souquemsabes t1_ixqfc5l wrote

Perhaps.

However, history tells us that:

Turkish-Kurdish conflict or Kurdish rebellions in Turkey refer to the nationalist struggles of Kurds in Turkey, beginning after the Turkish War of Independence and the consequent transition from the Ottoman Empire to the modern Turkish state.
According to Turkish military records, Kurdish rebellions have been taking place in Anatolia for over two centuries.

Although Kurdish tribal uprisings ended the Ottoman Empire over the last few decades of its existence, the conflict in its modern phase is considered to have started in 1922, with the rise of Kurdish nationalism paralleling the formation of the modern state. from Turkey.

In 1925, an uprising for an independent Kurdistan, led by Sheikh Said Piran, was quickly suppressed, and Said and his followers were executed soon after. Several other large-scale Kurdish revolts took place in Ararat and Dersim in 1930 and 1937.The British consul in Trebizond, Dersim's closest diplomatic post, spoke of the brutal and indiscriminate violence and pointed to an explicit comparison with the Armenian massacres of 1915. "Thousands of Kurds," he wrote, "including women and children, were killed, others, mostly children, were thrown into the Euphrates, while thousands of others in less hostile areas, who had first been deprived of their livestock and other belongings, were deported to vilayets (provinces) in Central Anatolia. Kurdish question no longer exists in Turkey".
Kurds accuse successive Turkish governments of suppressing their identity through means such as banning the Kurdish language in print and media.

Atatürk believed that the unity and stability of a country lay in a unitary political identity, relegating cultural and ethnic distinctions to the private sphere. However, many Kurds have not renounced their identities and language.

Full-scale armed conflict between the Turkish armed forces and the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) would occur throughout the 1980s and 1990s, leaving over 35,000 dead. Recent actions by the Turkish government have provided Kurds with limited rights and freedoms, particularly with regard to the Kurdish language, education and media. Kurdish politicians and activists still face pressure. (source: wikipedia).

Best regards.

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maybeex t1_ixr4p06 wrote

My comment is that, Erdogan is not and was never a Kurd hater, he is an Islamist and sees kurds as their muslim brothers and allies to create an Islamic Emirate in Turkey.

He also loves Sexh Said and mentions it in their election propaganda also the grandson of Said is a parliamentarian in Erdogans party.

There are many kurds outside of pkk and they are not all the same. Most of them are supporting Erdogan and his fundamentalist ideology. Pkk leader Ocalan even asked for his supporters to vote for Erdogan. Peshmerge and Erdogan are doing business openly selling Kurdish oil to other countries. Only way for Kurds to have a solution on self determination lies in democratic Turkey and it looks that wont happen soon.

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