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chenjia1965 t1_ixkuyen wrote

Reply to comment by witchknights in Brazil's electoral court rejects Bolsonaro election challenge by vitorgrs

Another question since I don’t follow too close, but what is bolsonaros appeal to Brazil compared to what he kept as promised? The only thing I know about him is he’s called Brazilian trump, burns the rainforest, and he’s got an actual military background compared to trump

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putinha21 t1_ixlc7m7 wrote

He essentially came up at a time of a global right wing political swing, following Donald Trump gaining notoriety and the "Operation Car Wash" (Operação Lava Jato) comingo into light. Operation Car Wash happened during the presidency of Dilma Rousseff (left wing politician that became president with the support of Lula).

Right now he basically follows the same footsteps as Donald Trump, he has been pushing "Red Scare" propaganda touting himself as the saviour against "communism" and corruption in Brazil.

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Lutoures t1_ixll35e wrote

Yes, basically this.

Also important to note: Bolsonaro claims the ideological inheritance of the military dictatorship that ruled here in Brazil from 1964-1985. So a lot of his speech worked by calling back anti-communist propaganda and red scare conspiracy theories from this era. Add to this a bit of new evangelical fundamentalim, and you'll have a good idea how he appeals to the conservative electorate.

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RubberbandShooter t1_ixkynqk wrote

Bolsonaro ran on the usual conservative talking points, pushback of corruption, violence, and rescuing of "family values" and Christian tradition. Brazil is a quite socially conservative and religious country, and the governments of PT from 2002 to 2014 became synonymous with a bunch of corruption scandals (look up Mensalão and Operation Car Wash), that tanked the image of the PT party for a lot of people. Bolsonaro then rose up as an "outsider" candidate, promising to not make any concessions to "the system" (even though he spent decades as a congressman who failed to put forward any relevant project), and fight "cultural marxism".

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NetEast1518 t1_ixloff2 wrote

Then you put everything he said in a resonation box called social mídia and you have as a result a lot of zombies that answer any argument presented with a loud: "You are a COMUNIST!!!"

Fear is the most feeling humans have, and they worked it very well.

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Full-Watercress-7743 t1_ixm2s83 wrote

let me give you some advice: Don't use someone's subjective opinion as the representative of the facts, especially when your parameter comes from the internet.

The president-elect, Lula governed the country during what is perhaps the period with the most cases of corruption in the country's history and was imprisoned until recently. The Brazilian supreme court did what it could to free the ex-convict from his sentence so that he would be able to run for election.

The question arises: Why would they do this? Members of the Supreme Court are appointed by the President. As President-elect Lula's party and its affiliates governed the country for more than 20 years, they nominated most of the ministers.

The reason you think of a third world country when you hear the name of Brazil, or think of samba or women is because during the last 22 years no president has made an effort to improve the country, and in that I am including Bolsonaro. To make matters worse, the Brazilian people are idolatrous and follow any imbecile with a political banner, which is the case of Lula - An illiterate, actively involved in cases of corruption (ministers arrested, money confiscated and returned to Brazil).

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FruityFetus t1_ixmttx2 wrote

“Don’t use someone’s subjective opinion as the representative of the facts”. Proceeds to supply subjective opinion.

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Full-Watercress-7743 t1_ixmu5vv wrote

Exactly. Divergence is important. If you can point out which points I made are lies, it would contribute to the discussion

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FruityFetus t1_ixmvxmx wrote

Why don’t you just source your points instead. I’m not saying they’re wrong, but it’s pretty hypocritical to call out subjectivity while making a bunch of unsourced statements yourself.

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Full-Watercress-7743 t1_ixmwncf wrote

I said not to assume as facts. That goes for the other opinions as well as mine. I don't see where the hypocrisy is in that. What I said can be easily found by searching for information about the car wash operation and the list of appointed ministers/government.

As credible as an opinion may seem, it is necessary to do research before assuming it as fact. This is necessary so that we do not fall into false narratives from any of the political sides.

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