It seems ridiculous that the foam filter cannot be replaced.

It was almost a year ago that the manufacturer told my mom they would replace the foam. She barely uses the machine now, hasn't had a restful sleep in months which further destroys her overall health

I have one of these. Been a long time since I used it. At this point I figure that they won’t.

Thankfully I had a spare ResMed machine (which I prefer anyways).

Ridiculous.

I suffered 98% sleep interruption so I have no choice but to keep using it.

Phillips has really screwed up several of their product lines in the past couple of years.
They had orders for over a thousand hospital V60 bipap machines, made all sorts of promises, and stalled with varying stories after a couple months of delivery delays. Turned out they had more than one problem, assembly line mistakes, mother board failures, and a major irreparable power supply failure caused them to cancel their most reliable, most popular, and cost effective commercial product line. Then they bait and switched many hospitals with the EV300, a comparatively shitty device, much less user friendly, terrible graphic user interface, and pricey.
The recalls on their home user devices are not limited to only one product line, either.
Pretty cold corporate shoulder when trying to get devices from them that were months overdue, in massive demand, after lots of song and dance, and major recalls on non invasive ventilators, the loss of which can be life threatening.
We have lost all trust in Phillips.

Dunno if you saw in the article but people were advised to continue using the machines even during the recall. The reasoning being is the increased risk of heart attack and health issues from lack of sleep apnea treatment is a bigger deal than the foam ingestion.

Husband finally got his recall replacement in the mail a month ago.

I just got one after being diagnosed this year and my Resmed device seems better anyway.

I have had my machine replaced.

I do not think most folks would be willing or capable of replacing the foam correctly. A lot of little screws.

I took my old cpap apart after I got the new one, they are very much not designed to be taken apart.

Exacerbating this is the chip shortage, meaning that replacement CPAPs can be hard to find.

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I never stopped using mine, I didn’t want to go back to not sleeping good. It was only two years old, I suppose the foam didn’t have too much time to deteriorate. I got the replacement two weeks ago.

So they are designed to be disposable? If that’s the case, corporate greed is the problem.

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They can be taken apart by them. My wife just got her new machine and had to return the old one for "refurbishment".

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It's probably more to do with the fact that dicking around with them can cause adverse effects on the user, they are medical devices after all.

As someone with sleep apnea that hates their CPAP, a custom TAP appliance from my dentist lowered my apnea events to a safe level just as much as my machine did. If you hate your CPAP, talk to your dentist / Google TAP appliance for sleep apnea.

Look in to a TAP appliance from your dentist. It changed my life cause I hated my CPAP

Tell her to talk to her dentist about a TAP appliance custom mouth guard.

The replacement Philips devices are not as good I've heard.

As I understand it the foam is more or less okay unless you use an ozone cleaner or UV or something gets into the foam to break it down.

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The recall coincided with needing a new machine. My doc wrote a script for a new non-Phillips machine. I was lucky, but had still been using the one with the faulty foam for years, so who knows.

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Would something like that be affordable if I don't have insurance at the moment? I tried the CPAP, but it made it too hard for me to sleep at all and they had it set up where if I didn't use it enough nights a month I had to pay a ridiculous amount so I was too afraid to keep it.

My dental insurance did not cover mine, it was 900$ out of pocket. It has lasted more than 3.5 years as of right now and I am a teeth grinder when I sleep. Worth every single penny.

Also your comment about having to use it a certain # of nights or pay a fine is fucking dystopian as fuck. Fuck capitalism, fuck "free market" health care. Such horse shit.

This is the first I’m hearing of a recall, but I also have resmed

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My husband's looks exactly the same as his old one. Minus the foam inside presumably.

It's for Philips devices, no worries.

My insurance paid for all but $105 of my CPAP and mask. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for them to want proof that what they pay for is actually being used. After 6 months I fully own the machine and there are no more stipulations.

A foam filter is something that should be easy to replace. Lots of medical devices have parts easy to replace and clean.

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Not sure why an end user would want to. The issue is when the foam is damaged. If you have one of the affected machines and still waiting on a replacement, keep inspecting it for damage and don't try to fuck with the foam yourself.

I would but my problem is central sleep apnea I dream so hard I forget to breathe.

I got a recall notice from my doctor Phillip magnets in their masks. (And I don’t even have a Phillips machine. 🤷🏻‍♀️)

I guess I’m lucky. I was diagnosed after the recall and got a resmed machine. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Overall, using the cpap is awful but better than no oxygen.

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Filters need cleaning and replacing. It shouldn’t be a big deal. Cars, furnaces, hearing aids all have filters or things to clean. Foam wears out, replacing it should be easy. This seems like planned obsolescence

It's the sound dampening foam that caused the issue. The filters are easily replaceable.

I'm been CPAP since 2008 after falling asleep on a motorcycle at 70 mph in late 2007.

CPAP = Life.

I search FB market place and Craigslist every now and then for machines like mine. I buy them as back up for myself or for my sister and Dad who also use them. I clean them down to the circuit board and I know how to re-program them by reading CPAP forum posts.

Pass this on or ask me anything, I'll try to do my best to answer your questions.

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It sounds like this foam isn't mean to be cleaned or replaced.

What are your thoughts on the DeVillbiss machines?

You think that people should be able to get a $1200 machine covered by insurance every 2 years, and yet offer no proof that they aren't just turning around and selling them on eBay?

I'm more concerned with having to pay monthly (rather than a one time payment) for the CPAP until it's paid off, the payments go for more than a year (so it's two yearly deductibles, not one) even if I've been on a CPAP for 10 years with 100% compliance. I ended up buying one at half the price outside of insurance, even though I had insurance.

I also buy things like filters on Amazon for $15 instead of paying $85 each through insurance that mostly goes straight to deductible.

I've never used or heard about them so I can't offer any opinions. I've always used ResMed S8 (several versions)

How much is one of those machines worth? What a waste