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grungegoth OP t1_iy7rfoz wrote

Reply to comment by padizzledonk in Photo shows 3 stowaways who were rescued from oil tanker's rudder after likely 11-day ordeal by grungegoth

Probably beats being in air craft landing gear ;)

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pangolin-fucker t1_iy7vhmo wrote

Im wondering if they had a bag of supplies. Mainly water because I can't imagine lasting in that condition for long without any

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MerryGoWrong t1_iy7zccv wrote

They would have had to, there's no way they could survive that long without water.

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EmotionalSuportPenis t1_iy8bfmk wrote

As a rough rule of thumb, a human needs about 1 liter a day at an absolute minimum, assuming you aren't sweating or exerting yourself. That just replaces what you lose through normal metabolic processes.

You could probably do with even less temporarily, but at that point you're just delaying your death because you're still experiencing a net loss of water.

An average human undertaking average activity levels needs 3-4 liters a day to stay healthy, not just alive.

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am3l1a t1_iy8dz7l wrote

And how long can you go without sleep?

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neryen t1_iy8hr6q wrote

The longest recorded time is 11 days, however there is no known fatal limit.

We become severely impaired and begin microsleeping after 48 hours.

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NextTrillion t1_iy953p0 wrote

They could take turns sleeping while the others keep them safe. 4 hours of sleep, 8 hours awake to watch your buddy. Not saying it would be a very comfortable sleep, but they obviously survived (some how)!

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vox1028 t1_iybyg7c wrote

i don't think i drink a litre of water each day... what happens if you don't?

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Sometimes_Stutters t1_iy7z8nu wrote

That’s a tough call honestly. The cold and lack of oxygen would be a serious issue, but you only need to last a couple hours. I think I’d take my chances on landing gear before 11 days on a rudder.

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Bimimans t1_iy7zer8 wrote

You 100% die there.

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Sometimes_Stutters t1_iy80ohs wrote

I had to look it up, and it appears there’s about a 25% estimated survival rate (though not entirely verified).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2014/04/22/how-jet-stowaways-survive-the-freezing-cold/amp/

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wzi t1_iy81rc7 wrote

> Counting the California teen, 25 made it alive, for a survival rate of about 1 in 4. The FAA notes that the rate may be lower, because people could have stowed away and fallen out of the wheel well without anyone knowing.

So the 25% is more of a ceiling though how much so is unknown.

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NextTrillion t1_iy97oc4 wrote

With the most high end, Mount Everest quality gear, supplemental oxygen, and having a fairly upbeat attitude during your 10 hours of pure hell, you could survive.

You’re basically ascending to a bit higher than Mount Everest within less than an hour. So the ambient air pressure (‘thin’ air) will be equivalent to absorbing 1/3 the oxygen you’re used to (iirc), so you’d obviously pass out. I’d tether myself, just in case.

Having the oxygen concentrator would help with that but I’m not sure how the battery would be able to handle the cold. You’d have to keep it close to your body in a heavily insulated bag.

So I’d say, someone with a good amount of cash and technical know how should be able to survive, but someone very poor with some ill-fitting gear has a much lower chance of survival. That’s if they have even the slightest clue about what they’re about to go through.

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ThirdSunRising t1_iy9zpsz wrote

So basically what you're saying is, if you can afford appropriate gear for stowing away, you can afford the ticket.

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NextTrillion t1_iya5umm wrote

Well, yeah, I was trying to say that it’s not likely anyone that could survive would need to do it in the first place.

Don’t know, maybe a really thick sleeping bag and loads of those hot shots things, tie yourself down so you don’t fall out, and then you slip into a little coma and maybe you can thaw out and survive. People have survived really nasty snowstorms on Everest I believe for days. All of their extremities have died off due to frostbite, but their system kept on ticking.

I just like to think about all the various factors and I’m bored at work right now.

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EinsteinEP t1_iya43am wrote

>With the most high end, Mount Everest quality gear, supplemental oxygen

Is this cheaper than coach? Asking for a friend.

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Elcactus t1_iy8u7b8 wrote

2 hours : 3 Minutes is worse than 11 days : 3 days.

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NextTrillion t1_iy97wz3 wrote

I don’t follow you here.

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Elcactus t1_iy9co2x wrote

While you'd be in the air for much less time, the time in which you'd go without the thing you'd be missing (air, water) relative to the amount of time needed to kill you for missing it is much greater.

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GozerDGozerian t1_iybqt7w wrote

Just bring a piping hot mug of air and some super warm jammy-jams.

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