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Thetruthislikepoetry t1_iupb839 wrote

Reply to comment by TrunksTheMighty in Jury awards $21m to family of patient after simple leg surgery left him in a vegetative state by TheFullerTron

Every place I’ve worked you are required to be a full code when going to OR. Why? No surgeon wants a patient to die on the OR table.

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LoverlyRails t1_iupryh6 wrote

For about a year, I received botox treatments for migraines. Every single time I came in to the neurologist's office for the treatment, I had to sign paperwork stating I wanted to be receive everything possible (the full code) if neccessary or they would not do the botox.

I'm guessing it's similar. A small, but slight risk of something going terribly wrong.

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coreyman317 t1_iuqvsqx wrote

So why would you risk that for Botox? Just bizarre.

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ravingriven t1_iuqwlfs wrote

Did you skip over the part where they said it was for migraines?

Botox has many uses far beyond just cosmetic

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coreyman317 t1_iur1lg9 wrote

So take poison for migraines? You’d have to be stupid to do that lol

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zanraptora t1_iuri7b4 wrote

We use purified toxins all the time in medicine. Botox specifically was cleared by the FDA in 2010. Turns out a paralytic compound is pretty great at stopping headaches caused by misfiring musculature that doesn't have much practical use.

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craznazn247 t1_iuro1fr wrote

Warfarin is the primary ingredient in rat poison, but we do controlled microdoses with frequent monitoring, and that has been the gold standard for blood clot prevention for decades. Factor Xi drugs are now the gold standard but only due to slightly less bleeding risk than warfarin. Last I checked the clot prevention is still considered equal to warfarin, but those new drugs are expensive as hell at over $500/month if your insurance doesn’t cover it.

Besides, some of us get migraines so painful and enduring that in the moment, that being prescribed a bullet starts to sound reasonable. Botox is safely used for wrinkles and overactive sweat glands - things that people can easily live without. So why not use it in situations where it can alleviate chronic pain and suffering with minimal (or even desired) side effects if done right? Other than the localized effects, it can have a lot fewer systemic effects than some of the drugs used.

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LoverlyRails t1_iur1ypy wrote

I have severe migraines that have neurological symptoms (like I have had a stroke). For example- I have briefly forgotten my children's names, how to tie my shoes, how to use a phone. I still have memory loss and other neurological issues (like a severe inability to do math and aphasia) even despite treatment.

Before treatment, I was getting migraines most days a month (over 25).

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