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thought_first t1_ixd8lko wrote

> FIFA’s scandalous attitude is absolutely unacceptable.

Pick any era and this is still understated.

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Ayzmo t1_ixdr3pu wrote

The fact that any country has participated in this World Cup is shameful.

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darkpaladin t1_ixea0qs wrote

It'll never happen but I have fantasies about both teams walking out for the final in their armbands for introductions and immediately walking out at the opening whistle.

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Lucius-Halthier t1_ixj9990 wrote

I’m honestly expecting that halfway through this shot show after so many teams giving them the finger and outrage from fans Qatar is just going to be a petty sore loser since they lost first and outright cancel the rest of the cup just to fuck with everyone. Absolutely nothing good has come from this nightmare, they thought it would make them look good, they thought it would make them money and people would be happy, but all that’s come from this is broken promises, failure in their first game, getting pissed off at people for wearing rainbow bands, getting pissed at players/teams for the same thing, they are being criticized by the whole world for their homophobia, anti semitism and human rights violations. It has been a net loss across the board for them and I’m so happy that it is, I hope this is another permanent stain on FIFA but I wish it was even more, like maybe nations finally start telling them to go fuck themselves

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dodobird8 t1_ixglua4 wrote

Agreed. The lack of boycott from the players is disappointing..

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Slutdragonxxxpert t1_ixdk3s5 wrote

Just wear them if you’re about to be eliminated. Fuck FIFA

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JubeltheBear t1_ixdv9cg wrote

So you’re saying the US mens team should wear them coming off the plane…

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BrownNote t1_ixe0vs6 wrote

I would love the CONCACAF rep from wearing them when all the UEFA teams won't.

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Cacophonous_Silence t1_ixecxh6 wrote

"Why can't America make a decent ale do better at soccer?"

"Probably because we're too busy making medical breakthroughs and blockbuster movies and going to the moon!"

EDIT: I thought the quotation marks and strikethroughs would be enough to signify I was referencing something. I guess not.

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JubeltheBear t1_ixeh627 wrote

I love that statement. But Uruguay has won two World Cups, and I'm not sure they have as many people as our third largest city...

We ain't got no excuse.

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Iohet t1_ixejizi wrote

> We ain't got no excuse.

Honestly, we just don't give a shit about the world cup collectively. It's not like the Olympics where we revel in the prestige of winning

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JubeltheBear t1_ixen7oy wrote

That does explain the mens team underachieving. But it doesn't explain the womens team success.

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Iohet t1_ixenf9u wrote

I figure it's mostly because the women's team gets to pick from the top athletes in the US. There's not a half dozen other sports that top athletes gravitate to, and collegiate sports have a lot of money to throw around because of Title IX. You're basically talking basketball, softball, and soccer, for the most part, maybe gymnastics and other Olympic sports as well

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Dr_thri11 t1_ixf3pj8 wrote

It probably is the most popular women's sport in the US vs being 4-5th. There isn't really a women's version of American football of any size worth mentioning anyway, softball isn't popular, and the WNBA is niche at best. So soccer actually does pull the best women athletes to it in the US.

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Dr_thri11 t1_ixf2ws6 wrote

The US has 3 sports that are more popular than soccer, and one other that soccer is just now starting to catch. That's the real reason, the country's elite athletes are playing American Football, basketball, and baseball instead. Even hockey is siphoning off a fair amount.

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JubeltheBear t1_ixf3ro1 wrote

Absolutely. The investment isn’t worth the payoff here at the end of the day. But it’s also mind boggling that in 100 years it’s never been attempted or even prioritized.

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Dr0110111001101111 t1_ixgtjk1 wrote

That’s a secondary reason at best. The reality is that in most countries, prodigal soccer players are identified as teenagers, and soccer becomes their full time job before they complete high school. In the US, our farm system is mainly the NCAA. That means American soccer players are usually juggling high school, then college as they work through their most crucially developmental years. And with MLS being far less lucrative than other sports organizations, many of them have to keep some sort of backup plan in mind the whole time.

So by the time an American soccer player finishes college and is ready to go pro, their counterparts in Europe and South America have been playing full time without distractions for at least 5, but potentially 10 years. They’re barely literate, but they are miles ahead in competition.

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Dr_thri11 t1_ixgtzyg wrote

The amount of time and effort elite basketball and baseball players put into their sport is pretty similar with camps and summer leagues. Football is a bit different because it's so physical so playing more than the standard season would wreck your body, though the guys bound for D1 programs certainly start working out like it in highschool.

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Dr0110111001101111 t1_ixguxd1 wrote

I agree that American soccer players train/develop similar to how American baseball/basketball players develop. The difference is that there are far fewer countries that have as much interest in those sports, so america can stand out better. Soccer is far more universal, so you have something closer to uniform exposure over the whole world.

With that said, look at a team like the Yankees. Only about half of them are actually American. Japan took the gold in the 2020 olympics. Don't confuse the MLB's ability to import talent with the notion that this country produces superior baseball players. Baseball would be unrecognizable without central america.

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Dr_thri11 t1_ixgvc7l wrote

Can you see how having 4 other sports and soccer being a very distant 4th places siphons off the elite athletes though. You can't tell me that a country of 330 million wouldn't consistently field a better team than most of Europe and South America if it was far and away the most popular sport. But it's not, it's been kind of an afterthought the most elite athletes in the US have 4 other sports they tend to pick first.

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Dr0110111001101111 t1_ixgx182 wrote

I definitely think it would make us far more competitive, but I definitely wouldn’t assume that would guarantee elite status just because of population size.

You made a great example with Uruguay. Tiny country, consistently competitive. Meanwhile soccer is huge in India (compared to USA) but they rarely even get a team to qualify.

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Cacophonous_Silence t1_ixekrz5 wrote

It's just one of my favorite quotes from king of the hill (slightly edited)

Normally I pay attention to the WC but idc this time around

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JubeltheBear t1_ixen9nc wrote

I thought I had seen that somewhere. You should post the video in your initial comment. Your downvotes are undeserved.

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disneyunicorn t1_ixea60y wrote

Rewe is one of the best supermarkets in Germany. So happy to see that they are standing up to this nonsense.

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EntertainerNo3007 t1_ixeyga1 wrote

The World Cup has only been played for 90 years. It wouldn’t be that shattering to dissolve FIFA and start a new org. FIFA needs to be demolished

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