FHG3826 t1_iuljqg5 wrote
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You know what wont help? More gun laws targeting law abiding citizens.
DogParkSniper t1_iulnrep wrote
More laws targeting the people who don't follow said laws won't work, either.
If the laws don't work as they are, they need to be redone until they do.
Wanna aim those laws elsewhere? People who want to solve the problem are all ears.
"Guns good, because guns" isn't gonna fix a damn thing.
FHG3826 t1_iun7feu wrote
Gun advocates scream from the mountain tops with other ideas, but grabbers just want to confiscate.
It's not "Guns good," it's "guns are my right". There's a big goddamn difference. Dont strawman the argument.
DogParkSniper t1_iuqj65d wrote
Nobody wants to come after your shitty shotgun collection. Relax.
Sane people just want to keep the most efficient means of killing people out of the hands of the unstable and insane. Which, we're doing horrible job of so far.
FHG3826 t1_iurcidn wrote
Yes they do. They say it all the time.
Strawmanning and poisoning the well from a losing position isnt a good look my dude.
The things you and grabbers writ large suggest wouldnt do anything to prevent people from acquiring firearms. So we need to address the root cause.
Chippopotanuse t1_ium1l66 wrote
What gun law targets a “law abiding citizen”?
The one that bans felons or domestic abusers from owning guns?
What I’m getting at is this: What gun do you want to own that you are prevented from owning by ANY firearm law past or present? (Because the answer is NONE.)
Because “law abiding citizens” don’t need fully automatic weapons of war.
You can buy whatever you damn well please, and you know it. My uncle had a goddamn arsenal. Close to 100 guns. Bullet making presses. Anything he wanted.
No law said “hey sir…after NINTEY FUCKING FIREARMS maybe you don’t need another AK.” Nope. He was free to pour whatever cash he wanted into weird-ass hobby.
“Law abiding citizens” gun rights are absolutely not under attack in any way, shape, or form. Never have been.
FHG3826 t1_iun739l wrote
You obviously didnt come to argue in good faith. And you're just...patently wrong. Lots of places limit the type of firearm you can own and operate. And the laws are obtuse and arbitrary.
E.g. SBR and brace laws. These ONLY affect law abiding citizens, and seem designed to turn them into felons.
E.g. 80 percent lower restrictions. Building your own firearm has long been legal, but now literal blocks of plastic are being called firearms because I can build it into one.
E.g. Suppressors are safety items but require a 200 dollar tax stamp and a 14 month waiting period. Why? Movies, I guess?
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Chippopotanuse t1_iumm97n wrote
You want a machine gun with a laser sight, a noise suppressor, and a high capacity magazine?
Just as I would have guessed.
You are unhinged and need to check your definition of what “law abiding” people means.
You ain’t one of them if you need a fully automatic machine gun with a laser sight.
Omg.
Also - what city and timeframe are you claiming you couldn’t own a handgun?
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Chippopotanuse t1_iumr790 wrote
You just want “the ability” to own one?
Nice dodge of not answering what you actually want to own.
And nice avoidance of articulating when and where you couldn’t own a handgun. Because I’m not aware of any city that EVER banned handgun ownership in our lifetimes.
There are cases wheee cities wanted to regulate whether folks could carry handguns in public, or with a concealed permit. (See DC v Heller, etc…)
But I’m really curious what city you lived in where handgun ownership was outright banned. And this 30-year struggle you talk about.
silver_sofa t1_iumpusq wrote
No new restrictions in the last twenty five years? Well that clearly explains why gun violence has plummeted recently.
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silver_sofa t1_iunjeya wrote
The automobile laws of 100 years ago are relatively nonexistent compared to what we have today. A point no one seems to consider.
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