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Fizzicyst t1_itq73z9 wrote

If he did kill 60 or 70 women without being caught, he'd not only set all sorts of gruesome records (only in the US as Luis Garavito of South America is suspected of killing as many as 300) but it'd also be a wake-up call for people at agencies like the FBI. Even over a lifetime, 70 kills is a lot. And not getting caught the entire time, is even more miraculous.

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Use_this_1 t1_itqjtjf wrote

when they kill sex workers and homeless people cops don't care.

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bye-bye_boomer t1_itqnyw0 wrote

Sounds like we need more sex-worker and homeless representation within police forces

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Artanthos t1_itsuwp1 wrote

  1. Gotta pass the background check
  2. They won’t be homeless with steady employment.
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MGD109 t1_itrg1s9 wrote

Don't even need to be sex workers, homeless people or minorities.

If you kill people who have no connection to the community, who know one really knows that well or those who don't do know for sure where they are i.e. Travelers, backpackers, runaways etc. Its very easy to get away with it.

After all who's going to notice their missing? And if they do who's going to come looking here in the middle of nowhere?

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Fant0mX t1_itt2znu wrote

...what do you mean by "here"?

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MGD109 t1_itvi085 wrote

Thurman, Iowa where these events took place. From the sounds of it, its in the middle of dab nowhere.

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Fizzicyst t1_itqmq2i wrote

I'd agree that the locals don't, but the I'd say the FBI loves to make the local cops look even more foolish.

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thebillshaveayes t1_itvwb1w wrote

I get the feeling the local police were too chickenshit and/or didn’t want to get into it w her dad. That’s the feeling you get when 2 of the random ass people from the article are like, yeah, her dad being a serial killer makes sense

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r0ndy t1_itqcnnq wrote

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/samuel-little-most-prolific-serial-killer-in-us-history-100619

93 appears to be his number

Edit: Samuel little, not man in the article

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_Palala_ t1_itqxxj2 wrote

*60 confirmed murders *93 claimed/suspected

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r0ndy t1_itr647d wrote

Some are too old to validate anymore. Some, he was unable to recall specific details. And I think if somebody can provide information details about a murder 30 years ago after confirming killing 60 to 70 other people, it's not likely that they are making it up.

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_Palala_ t1_itrj5io wrote

Still, confirmation is a little more credible, no? Wasn't trying to one up you or something. Just thought it was worth noting

Besides, there have been many killers of various kinds that admit to more murders than they're responsible for. Henry Lee Lucas comes to mind.

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r0ndy t1_itrorzq wrote

You're not wrong. Accuracy in todays media climate is important. And this is vague information. I appreciate your feedback and candor

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_Palala_ t1_itt3grj wrote

Exactly this yes Some don't even have the bar set that high and will settle for some perverted version of clout

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bannana t1_itqs6z1 wrote

Samuel Little did with no problems (93confirmed victims), he even got caught red handed in the act a couple of times and cops didn't seem to care all that much.

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attillathehoney t1_itrk15v wrote

One of Jeffery Dahmer's victims, a 14 year old boy called Konerak Sinthasomphone actually escaped from Dahmer and ran into the street naked and disoriented. Not only did Milwaukee cops not believe him or the neighbors who reported it, they handed him back to Dahmer who strangled him to death 30 minutes after they left. While the cops were checking out Dahmers apartment, there was another body in the bedroom that the cops didn't see.

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Pallets_Of_Cash t1_itrqxns wrote

There was a recent case of a girl who escaped her house where she and her siblings were kept chained by their parents. She took some cell phone pics of her siblings before she escaped and the cops said that was a real smart move because without the pics they might have just considered her a runaway and returned her home.

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Archmage_of_Detroit t1_itt21b3 wrote

Jordan Turpin.

Yeah, the cops treated it as a "runaway" situation and were fully prepared to return her to her parents, despite her saying they'd tried to kill her before, and would absolutely do it again. The only reason they entered the home at all was because of those pictures. When they went inside, they found a dozen emaciated kids, some of whom were chained to their beds and hadn't bathed for a year.

It's considered one of the worst child abuse cases in America's history, and the cops almost didn't investigate.

Thankfully Jordan seems to be doing great now. She has an active TikTok account and keeps in touch with her siblings.

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LotharLothar t1_itu8r8g wrote

Not sure how familiar you are with the case. Was very sad. Some of them were put in foster homes where they were subjected to physical and sexual abuse, again. Very troubling. They do seem to be doing well now, though. Very resilient.

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Few-Cable5130 t1_itskbki wrote

I mean it was just some boyfriend stuff.

Don't forget where these cops not only kept their job but one was president of the local police union in the 2000's and just retired in 2017.

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meatball77 t1_itsgxrq wrote

Not if he was picking up prostitutes at truck stops. The homeless. People that no one was looking for.

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Fizzicyst t1_itsimub wrote

I think that was Gary Ridgeway's victim profile. His mistake was that he left the bodies to be found near the Green River. Gacy made the mistake that he began to take people who would be missed. I think if he had stuck to male prostitutes he'd have gone another decade or more.

It's really sad that there are segments of society that can be killed off and no one seems to notice or care.

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SofieTerleska t1_itsu6zm wrote

Gacy actually took people who would be missed quite early on, that's the crazy thing about him. Yes, there were runaways and prostitutes mixed in there but his second or third victim had worked for him and the kid's father was begging cops to look into Gacy, and throughout the next few years Gacy employees also disappeared. It's just that it being the seventies, no bodies, and the kids being older than, oh, 12, the cops were all too happy to write them off as runaways. I've seen people say he only got caught because his last victim was a "good kid" but the kid really wasn't that different from plenty of previous victims -- a high school kid living with his parents and looking for part time work. What really got Gacy in trouble was kidnapping the kid as his mother was literally waiting in a drugstore for him to come back from the parking lot so she could drive him home. Even lazy Illinois cops couldn't write that one off as a random runaway.

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meatball77 t1_itsjx0q wrote

If he'd lived in the country on a giant block of land he could probably have just dumped the bodies in the woods and no one would have known.

Dahmer made me wonder how many serial killers there are that get away with it because he was so sloppy and still got away with everything for so long.

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thebillshaveayes t1_itvsvk4 wrote

Also Ted Bundy was like, well I want to help the FBI catch him (bc that is my block and I AM KING).

FBI took him up on the offer.

Bundy: like okay guys, next time you find some bodies leave them bc he’ll totally come back and fuck them.

Police ?

Bundy: yeah, he totally will. Just…believe me, like, he’ll BE back

Ridgeway came back.

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Nasaboy1987 t1_ittu5kf wrote

Especially if they were black or indigenous. A white person goes missing and it's the only thing on the news for weeks, same age same circumstances but black/indigenous and it barely makes the local news for 3 minutes.

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angrybirdseller t1_iu7xtg9 wrote

Would check missing person reports in Omaha and Kansas City. Very unlikely going murder people in town.

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Dye_Harder t1_itrk2fb wrote

> 70 kills is a lot. And not getting caught the entire time, is even more miraculous.

You don't know this because this is a paradox. For all we know most serial killers kill 100+ and don't get caught. How would we know? They didn't get caught.

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MGD109 t1_itrm25u wrote

Well your absolutely right, we can't know for sure. But statistically its less likely than the alternative.

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Artanthos t1_itsupdw wrote

The police have a long history of not being concerned about prostitutes.

Add in the fact that very few people are going to notice prostitutes going missing and nobody is going to notice a runaway missing and yes, it’s very possible.

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finnerpeace t1_itsh51c wrote

A lot of it is that these are relatively transient lifestyles anyway. When they're killed, if there's not a body appearing somewhere, it can look like they just up and left. If there are people who know them well enough to know they didn't take their stuff etc, these are often the types of people who will generally avoid law enforcement: fellow prostitutes, pimps, etc.

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