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Sardine_Sandwich t1_ithav69 wrote

Thank goodness, I had a bad feeling the father was going to do something drastic to his family, I'm glad they're safe.

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Cricketcaser t1_ithclt6 wrote

"They are still of the opinion that people are after them, but the elements of the investigation do not meet the criteria for protective custody,"

So, this family thinks some group is after them, but either they don't want or the police don't want to protect them?

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VyrPlan t1_ithhygt wrote

great news...now maybe that picture of the two brothers will stop visiting my nightmares

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Snooty_Cutie t1_ithjivh wrote

Replying to IMLcon (#191,677)

I’m not sure if the story just got a whole lot more interesting, or if I should just roll my eyes; either way that’s one hell of a twist in the story.

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SerendipitySue t1_ithlcrf wrote

Sigh. Does not sound like the wife is going to step up while hubs descends into,,,some mental illness.

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irwinlegends t1_ithlg89 wrote

Replying to Snooty_Cutie (#191,843)

The story began with him calling 911 and asking for police to come to his home while he reported the sensitive information he believed he had discovered. He works in financial software.

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my_name_is_reed t1_ithneex wrote

Replying to irwinlegends (#191,973)

I kind of feel like if you had serious evidence of something happening on 9/11 due to your position in the financial industry calling 911 wouldn't be how you reported it. I bet he does work where he says, but that is some batshit logic

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irwinlegends t1_ithrvtt wrote

Replying to my_name_is_reed (#192,106)

He was not calling 911 to report his "evidence."

He called 911 to request that police come to his home to protect his family while he reported his findings to the government. He specifically requested a sergeant that he knew personally. I don't know if that guy ever showed up, but it seems he took his family on the run shortly after.

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pinetreesgreen t1_ithsjag wrote

Guy sounds like he has delusions. His family is for sure in danger.

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awhq t1_ithte2i wrote

They left the grandmother, who has dementia, at their home alone. They need to be charged.

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justforthearticles20 t1_ithxjp6 wrote

Mentally unstable Father takes family on crazy Train. Police send them home with him.

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InternationalCut2610 t1_ithxv59 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#192,143)

I mean I guess since he works in finance, I'd say that's the most likely area to find direct evidence of malfeasance related to 9/11.

Not the attacks or any of the controlled demolition bullshit conspiracy theories but profiteering off of starting a never ending war, which relates to the only semi-credible theory I've heard about 9/11 which is that certain people in the government connected to defense contractors "let it happen".

That said, probably just a guy having a mental breakdown.

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ineclipse t1_ithxy98 wrote

so...they left their demented mom behind, unsupervised, along with their pets? have I got that right? but it's okay, because they're all fine? have I got that right?

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LowDownSkankyDude t1_iti2k5i wrote

This feels like the beginning of a tragedy.

This guy swallowed conspiracy theories whole, has a family history of dementia, and thinks someone is after him to the point that he relocated his family. The cops hear this, think nothing of it, and send him on his way. So either the threat to his family isn't credible, and this dude is dangerously delusional, or the threat is real, making the cops look incompetent either way.

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LadyFoxfire t1_iti4m82 wrote

Replying to Snooty_Cutie (#191,843)

There’s so many conspiracy theories about 9/11 that even if someone did stumble onto the truth (assuming it differs from the official story) the government would likely just ignore that person and let their claims get lost in the noise. Assassinating them would just draw attention to their claims and encourage conspiracy theorists to latch onto that (true) version instead of a false narrative.

The only exception would be if this guy had hard evidence, like a recording of W plotting the attacks, but in that case the smart thing to do is to release it publicly before the government has a chance to silence you. They’ll probably still send you to jail, but they have no incentive to disappear you if the damage has already been done.

No, this sounds like a pretty straightforward case of paranoid delusions. I hope this guy gets help before he does anything he regrets.

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NPVT t1_iti69xv wrote

If he had evidence the safest thing to do would be to publish it for the world to see. Running off and hiding would make you a target - if it was true. But crazy thinking is not evidence.

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blondchick12 t1_itib7s8 wrote

Replying to ineclipse (#192,792)

I think okay must be relative to how many including myself thought this was not going to end with them all being found alive. Whether they are all alive and "well" hat is to be determined. Hopefully, family and mental health professionals can step in as needed. I assume it was very out of character for this family to do such as thing as leaving the elderly mom and pets behind...

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cadeawayy t1_itidjog wrote

I opened Google this morning and one of the trending searches was "Michigan family found dead". I had been following this story, so I sat for a minute or two really upset, but then I clicked the link to see the most recent article was an hour old and saying they were found safe.

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MGD109 t1_itihmah wrote

What a relief. Hopefully this guy will now get some actual help. Its clear his issues are out of control, and he won't get better with out proper treatment.

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emolga587 t1_itikg88 wrote

Replying to Diligent-Double-9795 (#194,153)

Yes, sorry for being unclear. When I first heard about the Michigan family, I thought of the family from Australia. I hoped that everyone would end up being okay, but at the time I thought it was wishful thinking. I'm glad that it was not wishful thinking.

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sjfiuauqadfj t1_itil76y wrote

Replying to IMLcon (#191,677)

theres actually a sub on here dedicated to people who think like that. the psych term for this type of idiocy is gang stalking if you want to dive into that rabbit hole of mental health issues

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fvb955cd t1_itimbqv wrote

Replying to LadyFoxfire (#193,210)

We're also past the 20 year mark where higher ups and those potentially in the know are retired and at an age where they're losing their health and influence.

I work for the government. When I see someone from 20 years ago fucked my reaction is "someone from 20 years ago fucked up" and the old person in the office goes "oh yeah they retired a few years after I started" and you move on and fix the fuck up, not cover it up to protect someone who has been retired for 17 years from a 17 year late negative performance rating.

Obviously a 911 conspiracy is more significant than someone who wrote an incorrect report or whatever but the fact is that the government is millions of individuals and you need a whole lot of loyalty to keep secrets safe once you're gone, same as any large organization.

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ZylonBane t1_itineku wrote

So he decided to cheese it.

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Diligent-Double-9795 t1_itinncu wrote

Replying to chobrien01007 (#194,444)

I couldn't say for sure, I'm not there. And mental health services and funding are severely lacking globally. Just the fact that the issues are out in the open, and no innocent bystanders were harmed, and authorities are aware of this man's situation and line of thinking is a step forward from what could have been, that's all.

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big-heck-nah t1_itip3w9 wrote

Man believes people are after him, goes on the run with (most of) his family, then their location is blasted all over the news. That certainly not going to help his mental health / possibly actual concerns

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l0c0dantes t1_itir8gx wrote

Replying to Cricketcaser (#191,307)

> They are still of the opinion that people are after them,

I mean, seeing as it made national news, they aren't that wrong. Seems like this search would feed directly into that belief

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Diligent-Double-9795 t1_itirs5u wrote

Replying to chobrien01007 (#194,612)

I'm not sure I'm following? Situations like this can also improve very quickly, with the right monitoring and meds. And custody for what? He internalised his whole psychosis and ran, hiding. He didn't threaten to, or shoot up the govt. Mental illness isn't a crime. He hasn't made great choices, but unless I'm missing something, he isn't criminal.

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SaltyWatermelon007 t1_itivo1g wrote

They left an elderly woman behind to die along with family pets. F this guy

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SaintsNoah t1_itixhxs wrote

Replying to NihlusKryik (#192,417)

Not defending the person your replying to, their comment seemed pretty stupid but couldn't you say the same to some of the extremely racist comments that headlines often bring about.

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veggeble t1_itj8p0u wrote

Replying to fvb955cd (#194,374)

Also, The 28 pages has been declassified for some time. We already have a pretty good idea who the financial backers of 9/11 were. Anything he discovered in some financial database would only be a piece of the puzzle, and would almost certainly require additional evidence from elsewhere (which he probably can’t access) to know for certain it is directly related to 9/11.

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lidsville76 t1_itj8p47 wrote

Replying to Gibberish5 (#194,252)

By doing that, there is a record of the call and request to speak with said officer. It has been recorded for evidence, so it will be difficult to deny he called asking for Sgt. Bestbud.

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Tannerleaf t1_itjewg7 wrote

This guy is going to end up killing his family in order to “protect” them.

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Dultsboi t1_itjftzc wrote

Replying to LadyFoxfire (#193,210)

If he’s telling the truth, he could’ve stumbled on the missing money that was being traded and transferred out of the towers computers during the attacks. Something the courts said were probably fraud, but “wasn’t a conspiracy” because it didn’t involve al-Qaeda.

Something like 500 million dollars disappeared during the attacks, and I highly doubt office workers were still doing trading after both planes hit.

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ScrewAttackThis t1_itjvp3x wrote

Replying to Ok_Valuable_356 (#192,925)

I'm gonna have to save this for later. I can't remember the details but I'm pretty sure there was a super weird case where a family suddenly vanished and it was uncovered that they went through some sort of mass paranoia.

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dragonspirit77 t1_itkaaog wrote

Sort of reminds me of the Jamison family incident in Australia. Given the known circumstances folie a double seems plausible.

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PuellaBona t1_itkl54t wrote

Replying to FaithlessVaper (#198,937)

Well, presumably the mom was sane. They probably thought she was good enough to keep the situation under control and get him help if needed. Obviously not. I wonder if she's just as mentally ill as he is.

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Consistent_Sector_19 t1_itkp84d wrote

Replying to Dultsboi (#196,736)

There were high number billions of dollars in suspicious unclaimed shorts placed just before the 9/11 attacks. Word leaked that the SEC had been called in to investigate whether someone had used foreknowledge of the attacks to make bets on the stock market that would have been huge winners, tipping off any potential conspirators. The options expired without being used, which added suspicion that someone wealthy and connected was in on the attacks. I thought the trail hit a dead end with a brokerage in mideast, but if there were any evidence left, financial software with a long archive could hold it. OTOH, This is the kind of thing you'd expect from a kook.

I think this is a wait and see kind of story. I hope there's more followup.

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ExplorerWestern7319 t1_itkx7ns wrote

Replying to sjfiuauqadfj (#194,274)

What sub is that. When i was a child i latched onto this idea that everyone was out to get me. I couldn't let on that i knes because then everyone would know that i knew. This started around 5 years old and by about 10 it had faded away. I wouldn't mind reading other people's stories.

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Intrepid_Advice4411 t1_itl1sg8 wrote

What's really scary is the police can't do anything about this. The parents say they're fine and have both willingly gone on this trip. The one child is a minor and both are autistic and probably believe whatever nonsense their dad is spouting. Supposedly the family didn't have any firearms so that makes me feel a little better, but ultimately this is a person in a mental crisis driving around the country with his wife and kids. The wife either believes what he's saying or is enabling him.

Here's hoping we don't have a report on this family dead in the middle of nowhere in a few weeks. I hope they decide to head home.

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Kurtotall t1_itlfulh wrote

We haven’t heard the end of this story yet. More to come.

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Dultsboi t1_itnkm4m wrote

Replying to Consistent_Sector_19 (#199,667)

One of the CEO’s of the reading firms that were in the towers straight up quit the next day. Leaving behind a 30ish million dollar a year salary. Lmfao if that doesn’t sound suspicious I don’t know what does

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Startled_Pancakes t1_itpmual wrote

Replying to PM_ME_UR_DIET_TIPS (#191,177)

This is more common than you might think. There is a whole online community of people who have persecutory delusions called Gang Stalking. There was a podcast of a woman who's whole childhood she grew up constantly randomly moving and cutting contact with family because her mom's boyfriend suffered from this mental illness, and convinced the mother she too was being followed.

It's like the primate part of the brain that says "there's a predator in those bushes" is always stuck in the ON position.

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