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ricardo9505 t1_itxq233 wrote

42 yrs in NYC and this is the second time I've heard about this.

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deftoner42 t1_itxr0rl wrote

Those doors really close that tightly? Enough to trap a loose jacket or something? Seems like that shouldn't even be necessary to close that tightly.

I'll always remember the show "Taxicab Confessions". A NYC cop (maybe am EMT) told a story about a guy stuck between the platform and the train... I've never trusted a subway and always found them scary.

Edit: his lower half got twisted up like a candy wrapper and his upper was fine. Clearly in shock, the cop had a conversation with this guy that had 0% of living. That shit has haunted me since I was 10, and is responsible for biggest fear - being stuck between something solid and something moving.

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mtarascio t1_itxt8zd wrote

A subway doesn't drag anyone.

Someone gets hit or caught.

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scurvydog-uldum t1_itxtuwl wrote

at least he wasn't dragged to his death in the Bronx.

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Standard_Gauge t1_itxvqmr wrote

Replying to mtarascio (#250,591)

What an odd thing to argue. If some item that is attached to a person (like clothes or a metal handle of some kind) gets stuck on any external part of a train and the train starts moving, the person is dragged. If they are unable to detach themselves from the object that is stuck to the train, the dragging will become fatal when the train reaches the end of the station and the person attached to it slams into the end wall. It's happened many times and is very tragic.

What other meaning would you ascribe to the word "dragged"??

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Standard_Gauge t1_itxxj5u wrote

Replying to mtarascio (#250,954)

> infers the trains fault

It does nothing of the kind. What a loony thing to argue. I recall a tragedy a number of years ago on an escalator where someone's shoe got caught on the edge of one of the steps as it started folding in, and the person lost most of his foot. It was hardly his fault, unless you would claim he shouldn't have been wearing shoes or should have worn protective thick workboots. And it wasn't the escalator's "fault" in the sense of any consciousness of right and wrong. But there was clearly a design flaw in the escalator. Most of us would call it a freak accident, but would still want the escalator's safety stop to be revamped. Same with train draggings. No one deliberately attaches themself to a moving train. And it's beyond cruel to the loved ones of the deceased to blather about the "culpability" of the victim.

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Standard_Gauge t1_itxz2ek wrote

Replying to mtarascio (#251,219)

You are seriously claiming it's impossible for hair, clothing, other items to become unintentionally ensnared in the moving parts (doors) of a train car?? I know someone it happened to. He was not attempting suicide. The man died. It can definitely happen.

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mtarascio t1_ity01op wrote

Replying to Standard_Gauge (#251,415)

I worry about the media headlines in general which has been having great ramifications on our democracy.

Sorry that you caught me when I got annoyed at it.

You're the one judging people on the rest of their life by Reddit comments.

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thinkltoez t1_ity4j98 wrote

When I first moved to the city, I thought the subway doors were like elevator doors and would just open if they hit resistance. So I jumped in between closing doors once and then closed on my face. I didn’t realize I had a big black mark on my face until I saw my reflection stops later. Anyway, people think they’ll just stay open, but the operator will close them on you. They’re cold about it. The warnings should be more severe like “beware of the closing doors…we’ll drag your body to the next stop. It’s not on us {shrug emoji}”

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ScootysDad t1_ityt3sc wrote

I'm confused, the subway in NYC moves? Shouldn't it be more efficient if we just make the trains themselves move? Not an engineer.

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arealhumannotabot t1_itzeuhx wrote

Replying to deftoner42 (#250,314)

Not sure how much force the doors take on NYC subway, but other trains I've ridden on can be opened if you pull hard enough, but also not so easily that people don't risk slipping out by accident.

I've been on the train a couple of times when someone let their body rest right against the door and the momentum with their weight pushing sideways caused the doors to start opening while we were moving. so I think it's a balance of safety from both perspectives.

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angelcobra t1_itzy7ho wrote

Replying to deftoner42 (#250,314)

Check out the “Subway” episode of Homicide: Life on the Street (1993). Full disclosure, I haven’t seen the episode since it aired; but it deals with this exact scenario.

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lvlint67 t1_iu0mncq wrote

Replying to mtarascio (#250,591)

Your argument doesn't really make any sense.aybe in an ideal world the headline would say something like "snagged and dragged".. but that's not the world we live in.

He got dragged. The headline is accurate and the minute manipulation is to get you to click the article to get the rest of the details.

It's pretty mundane and this is a silly hill to die on.

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