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happyscrappy t1_ith7vrb wrote

Reply to comment by Chillywilly37 in Man fatally shot after California high school football game by unknown_name

Okay, I'll bite. Look at a terrain map. Clearly it's one big valley from Redding to the Grapevine. Why does the San Joaquin Valley officially stop just before Sacramento?

Is there a good reason or did Sacramento not want to be part of the Central Valley either?

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urge2killRising t1_itheyuu wrote

The valleys are drained by separate rivers, hence they're separate valleys.

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Chillywilly37 t1_ith8ri3 wrote

The SJ valley is usually lumped together because it’s mainly AG. Come too far north and the terrain and attitude changes. Also you go from farmers to city/ suburban quite quickly.

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happyscrappy t1_ith9w7g wrote

Yeah. It's funny though, the article on the SJ valley says it's urbanizing. Says Bakersfield is a big-time up and coming city with multi-million dollar gated communities. I better rush out there before all the good land is taken. ;) Wikipedia should check to see if real estate agents are making edits to pages.

Certainly Chico feels different than Fresno. And in spring when Sacramento is a swamp it feels a lot different than either of them. But ending "a valley" is odd to me. I think I'm just hung up on the fact that the name is a geographic feature. It's not really all that different than classing Orange County different from Los Angeles. But since neither of those names refer to geographical features it doesn't seem as strange to me.

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SirThatsCuba t1_ithn0ya wrote

>Says Bakersfield is a big-time up and coming city

Thank you, I needed a laugh

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SixMillionDollarFlan t1_ithm0ca wrote

It's an interesting question. I think it's used as a geographic region (literally), and a sociological grouping. Literally, Sac might be part of the central valley region. But since it's a business/financial center instead of an agricultural town it's different culturally.

It reminds me of the East Coast where Appalachia refers to a type of living (rural) as well as a geographic region that has larger urban areas.

But Cali has never been good at naming regions (see NorCal/SoCal divide).

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Sulla-lite t1_ithtj9h wrote

Uh-huh…we also don’t use Cali, outlander.

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happyscrappy t1_itijxey wrote

Cali is a 30M person state. Not all residents use the same terms.

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Sulla-lite t1_itikqwj wrote

Says the guy who doesn’t know the difference between the Sacramento and San Joaquin.

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happyscrappy t1_itimkkl wrote

And that has what to do with what?

If I don't know that then you DO speak for 30M people?

Nope.

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