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Fizzicyst t1_iu0vkgy wrote

Fucking traitor. I hope the money was worth it.

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ulteriorwheeze t1_iu0vty6 wrote

People should boycott Qatar for their treatment of South Asian workers.

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MrBond90 t1_iu10r52 wrote

I read somewhere the average price paid out to betray your country is just something in the couple thousand dollar range.

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DANBlLZERIAN t1_iu13inm wrote

Really hope there’s a spike in treason charges for these specific US expats - should never be allowed back into the country unless it’s for a trial

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goosewut123 t1_iu1bsnk wrote

>Company records and interviews show Chalker consulted with and received advice on some of his proposals from then-CIA employee Denis Mandich, who worked as an agency liaison to Silicon Valley. Those projects included a multibillion-dollar proposal in 2014 to have Global Risk Advisors invest in tech startups on Qatar’s behalf, pitched as a way to block the sale of potentially sensitive technology to its Persian Gulf rivals.

>It’s unclear from company documents if that project moved forward and Mandich later left the agency and joined Global Risk Advisors to become one of Chalker’s top lieutenants. Mandich’s attorneys did not respond to questions about his work for GRA.

>Global Risk Advisors also created a detailed security plan in 2014 to install a surveillance system in Qatar that could track mobile phones in the country “with extreme accuracy” and allow analysts to “isolate individual conversations and listen in real-time,” according to internal company records that include a draft contract.

>That plan, dubbed Project Berlin, also suggested creating a World Cup 2022 mobile phone app that could record users’ location and movements. Chalker indicated in internal company documents that Qatar gave preliminary approval to Project Berlin but it’s unknown whether it was ever implemented.

Those are some interesting known unknowns being aired out.

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PauseAmbitious6899 t1_iu1dv55 wrote

Replying to ulteriorwheeze (#264,692)

Many moons ago, while working onsite in the Middle East, over heard the plant General contractor say “Egh don’t worry about it, they’re just Filipino” as some workers were carted off to the medical station.

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kaicyr21 t1_iu1rv4i wrote

Replying to SnakeDoctur (#267,238)

What in American history would make you think this? Genuinely asking. Every spy I can think of has been placed in a small dark cell for the entirety of their lives.

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broyoyoyoyo t1_iu1zy8s wrote

Replying to kaicyr21 (#269,513)

Well as someone that bothered to read the article, I can say that it seems to be a lot more complex than "he's a spy". He's not actively employed by the US government, and he didn't spy on the US itself. He spied on Qatar's rivals, some soccer officials, and he tried to influence US policy (aka lobbying which is legal). So the question seems to be whether he broke specific rules related to foreign lobbying, and whether he was allowed to offer his expertise (US cultivated tradecraft) to a foreign country. I'd say it's a coin toss on whether this guy actually sees the inside of a cell.

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groveborn t1_iu2aqwj wrote

Replying to DANBlLZERIAN (#265,832)

Why? Legitimate question.

He didn't spy on the US, he was employed by a foreign country. He's effectively a P.I. using the skills he was given in service to his nation.

It's not betraying your nation simply by working for another.

We don't own him, he doesn't owe us.

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2020GoodYear2Forget t1_iu2f1wx wrote

Why did they announce this? I reported childhood friends for working as affiliates and I couldn't get a response. I know they're still active. I no longer worry about retirement because of this incident. Fraud and BEC for retirement.

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groveborn t1_iu2lcjb wrote

Replying to DANBlLZERIAN (#274,051)

Yes, but people do that constantly. Often at the behest of foreign nations. There's a registry for them to be on. Sometimes people don't get on it when they should, but failure to register as a foreign agent isn't a betrayal, it's a minor crime. It'll be akin to driving without a license.

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EmbarrassedHelp t1_iu2ly2w wrote

Replying to groveborn (#272,558)

Some of these ex intelligence officers are using their skills to attack citizens of the US and its allies. For example: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-spying-raven/

> he had joined Project Raven, a clandestine team that included more than a dozen former U.S. intelligence operatives recruited to help the United Arab Emirates engage in surveillance of other governments, militants and human rights activists critical of the monarchy.

> Stroud and her team, working from a converted mansion in Abu Dhabi known internally as “the Villa,” would use methods learned from a decade in the U.S intelligence community to help the UAE hack into the phones and computers of its enemies.

> “I am working for a foreign intelligence agency who is targeting U.S. persons,” she told Reuters. “I am officially the bad kind of spy.”

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Run_the_Line t1_iu2rl5z wrote

This happens more often than people think.

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AnarchyinGroland t1_iu31jaw wrote

Replying to kaicyr21 (#269,513)

Yeah like that Maria Butina who served a whopping 18 month sentence (thats what ? One once of weed in Alabama) for being a GOP/NRA escort.

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If she was spying for SA or Israel it would have been.. Nothing

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MSteele1967 t1_iu45wh4 wrote

Replying to groveborn (#274,203)

"Driving without a license'. Whoa - huge understatement to say the least. If he has used his role/training as a CIA office against US interest he is a traitor and should be tried. Even if he had registered as a foreign agent.

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groveborn t1_iu5v5sr wrote

Replying to MSteele1967 (#282,560)

I don't think I'm in agreement, but it could be you mean something other than what I understand.

Dude isn't currently employed by the US, but is using his skills as an investigator to investigate people at the Olympics..

I'm not sure how that would be against the US interest. Also, speaking to lawmakers in an attempt to influence them - which is acceptable. He'd need to register as a foreign agent, but otherwise, not a big deal.

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MSteele1967 t1_iu5yykr wrote

Replying to groveborn (#294,795)

I don't think you are understanding the situation as well as what limitations former gov employees with clearances are allowed to do and not do. He is not just some guy.

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