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DANBlLZERIAN t1_iu13inm wrote

Really hope there’s a spike in treason charges for these specific US expats - should never be allowed back into the country unless it’s for a trial

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Yonder_Zach t1_iu199ad wrote

Based on recent news it seems like armed treason against the united states only gets you about 6 months-7years unfortunately.

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Pleasant-Fish-9741 t1_iu1b21k wrote

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim

Base it on fact lol

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RnDanger t1_iu1d56s wrote

I think they are basing it in precedents set by J6 trials

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Pleasant-Fish-9741 t1_iu1epxi wrote

The January 6th people aren't being charged with treason. The most recent guy Albuquerque Head plead guilty to assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers.

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RnDanger t1_iu1eyh4 wrote

This is practical information to incorporate into your expectations, I suppose. They don't like to charge violent insurrectionists with treason.

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The_Yarichin_Bitch t1_iu2oo5b wrote

Ok but that should warrant more time anyways alone, and get this, they committed treason and have no treason charges!

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groveborn t1_iu2aqwj wrote

Why? Legitimate question.

He didn't spy on the US, he was employed by a foreign country. He's effectively a P.I. using the skills he was given in service to his nation.

It's not betraying your nation simply by working for another.

We don't own him, he doesn't owe us.

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EmbarrassedHelp t1_iu2ly2w wrote

Some of these ex intelligence officers are using their skills to attack citizens of the US and its allies. For example: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-spying-raven/

> he had joined Project Raven, a clandestine team that included more than a dozen former U.S. intelligence operatives recruited to help the United Arab Emirates engage in surveillance of other governments, militants and human rights activists critical of the monarchy.

> Stroud and her team, working from a converted mansion in Abu Dhabi known internally as “the Villa,” would use methods learned from a decade in the U.S intelligence community to help the UAE hack into the phones and computers of its enemies.

> “I am working for a foreign intelligence agency who is targeting U.S. persons,” she told Reuters. “I am officially the bad kind of spy.”

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Cheap_Library5882 t1_iu3g8cz wrote

Yeah that's what the CIA does lol. Ever heard of a guy named Bin Laden? We're self-sustaining, our intelligence agencies train their own opposition lol.

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DANBlLZERIAN t1_iu2kdjh wrote

It literally says in the article they are looking into the fact that he may have influenced U.S policy

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groveborn t1_iu2lcjb wrote

Yes, but people do that constantly. Often at the behest of foreign nations. There's a registry for them to be on. Sometimes people don't get on it when they should, but failure to register as a foreign agent isn't a betrayal, it's a minor crime. It'll be akin to driving without a license.

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MSteele1967 t1_iu45wh4 wrote

"Driving without a license'. Whoa - huge understatement to say the least. If he has used his role/training as a CIA office against US interest he is a traitor and should be tried. Even if he had registered as a foreign agent.

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groveborn t1_iu5v5sr wrote

I don't think I'm in agreement, but it could be you mean something other than what I understand.

Dude isn't currently employed by the US, but is using his skills as an investigator to investigate people at the Olympics..

I'm not sure how that would be against the US interest. Also, speaking to lawmakers in an attempt to influence them - which is acceptable. He'd need to register as a foreign agent, but otherwise, not a big deal.

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MSteele1967 t1_iu5yykr wrote

I don't think you are understanding the situation as well as what limitations former gov employees with clearances are allowed to do and not do. He is not just some guy.

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