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radicalelation t1_itv0yrl wrote

I, for one, want all US labs to carry resources for every disease and virus they are unlikely to ever encounter.

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dat_GEM_lyf t1_itwhcbm wrote

Also they should absolutely be the highest possible BSL rating especially if high level BSL work is never performed there. I want my barely BSL1 lab to be 4 plz papi big gooberment

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GoldilokZ_Zone t1_itvydvh wrote

Mate this is why people put /s in their comments like that...

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Ameisen t1_itw5w8g wrote

To be fair, any kind of mark for sarcasm completely ruins the impact.

And idiots who don't recognize sarcasm likely will just ignore a sarcasm mark anyways.

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Eliju t1_itv1prr wrote

I doubt that’s cost effective. Who the hell thought Ebola would be an issue in 2022?

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tricksterloki t1_itv8b64 wrote

Anyone that remembers the Ebola outbreak during the Obama administration, is aware of the ongoing increase in outbreaks and other tropical diseases, read The Hot Zone or Clear and Present Danger, or is currently having validation of their previously thought irrational fear.

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coelogyne_pandurata t1_itwdnvs wrote

Read the hot zone in 4th grade in like 1994 and it wrecked me for life

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podkayne3000 t1_itwqvdh wrote

The film "Contagion" is also excellent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagion_(2011_film)

It got almost everything weirdly right, down to a quack drug that seems like a placeholder for ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.

The only thing it got wrong is that it shows the CDC performing really well and continuing to enjoy a high level of respect.

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WrathOfTheHydra t1_itxkl5x wrote

I am so absolutely glad I didn't watch this until Covid hit. There hasn't been a movie that dropped my jaw like that in a long time. It's basically alternate-universe Covid. The few things they got wrong were either incredibly forgivable or simply for dramatic effect. What a movie.

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Eliju t1_itvc1n8 wrote

I just looked and didn’t realize there was such a big outbreak at that time. I guess I vaguely remember it now. But it’s been pretty calm since then for the most part.

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tricksterloki t1_itvcotw wrote

How about the outbreak last year started from a nurse that had been infected 5 yrs prior?

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Cacophonous_Silence t1_itw6qrs wrote

Oh we're all so fucked

Only have vaccines for the Zaire ebolavirus and probably ⅓ the US wouldn't get it anyways

This is a time bomb waiting to go off

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tricksterloki t1_itw823d wrote

Hopefully no one in the US general population needs to get it. As for the other strains, this is where mRNA vaccines will shine. They're quicker to make and development can start as soon as you have the virus's genetic sequence. Also on the upside, we have a president that was involved in the previous Ebola outbreak.

All these tropical and emergent viruses are time bombs. That monkey pox, a virus we were watching, managed to become endemic the world over and that we lucked out noticing that, signals the countdown has started.

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reddrighthand t1_itw2ilg wrote

Fuck. The Hot Zone. It's an entire book of clickbait.

Edit to double down, fuck that book and its exaggerations: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2014/11/11/362379449/how-the-hot-zone-got-it-wrong-and-other-tales-of-ebolas-history

More:

https://www.mic.com/articles/95640/everything-you-know-about-ebola-is-wrong

https://gizmodo.com/how-the-hot-zone-created-the-worst-myths-about-ebola-1649384576

The man exaggerated the symptoms. He misled people about airborne spread. He described it moving "decisively.,"

Fuck that book.

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tricksterloki t1_itw38c6 wrote

Given when it was written Ebola wasn't known to the general public (1995) and it has good information, it's good for what it is. It's also proven relevant, because of current events. For a lay person, The Hot Zone is fine.

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pegothejerk t1_itvcyu4 wrote

BSL4 labs, the labs that can safely contain samples from pathogens that are high risk, cost hundreds of millions of dollars each to build. There's not enough money to convert every lab into a site that can test and accept such samples.

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slash_networkboy t1_itvhp8v wrote

>hundreds of millions of dollars each to build

About $1200 per square foot to build for perspective. Nevermind operational costs of several hundred per square foot monthly.

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coondingee t1_itwemjw wrote

So we can build a million labs that are only 1 sq ft for relatively cheap and then we could have them in every major city.

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dat_GEM_lyf t1_itwhh99 wrote

> there’s not enough money to convert every lab into BSL4

Not with that attitude

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mces97 t1_itvca83 wrote

Fauci. Maybe not Ebola, but I remember people saying how did he know Trump would face a pandemic if he wasn't involved. Uh because since 2000 there's been like 4? It's kinda is job you know? And when Ebola was going around in 2013, 14, or 15, forget the exact year, he treated the doctors and nurses at the NIH personally. They all lived.

I'm editing this because I shit you not when I was browsing Instagram a few minutes ago, I saw a video of Fauci talking about a surprise pandemic most likey will happen during Trump's term. And of course 90% of the comments said because he planned it. 🤦🏻‍♂️

I just copied what I said earlier. Why do people not believe anything anymore. It's ok to distrust and question the government. But not EVERYTHING is a made up conspiracy.

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Odie_Odie t1_itw6ni2 wrote

Utterly predictable. Ebola and Coronavirus will emerge anew again, it shouldn't surprise anyone.

Same reason we take avian and pork flu seriously every time their is a major outbreak in the respective species.

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ChallyPrime t1_itv5o28 wrote

Don't handle the dead. That's big way to spread. Oh, and keep Ebola patients isolated!

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Odie_Odie t1_itw6a9p wrote

Keep Ebola patients isolated forever* Come to find out it can lay dormant in the body for years before re emerging.

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The_Poster_Nutbag t1_itvfmy0 wrote

No you don't, most labs don't have the security/procedure to lock down such powerful pathogens.

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Avulpesvulpes OP t1_itv2z1d wrote

This comment is pointless given there is considerable risk for the outbreak to spillover and 140 travelers a day coming from Uganda per the CDC

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