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Amnesty has dramatically harmed their own reputation by staying basically silent on Russian atrocities carried out in Ukraine.

Silent is such a strong, inaccurate word.

"Russia began an all-out invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022, carrying out extensive military operations marked by war crimes and other violations of international humanitarian law."

From

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/europe-and-central-asia/ukraine/

Also

https://www.amnesty.ie/ukraine-russia-attack-kyiv/

And

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/latest-news-on-russias-war-on-ukraine/

And more if you care to look.

Whataboutism - the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.

Not at all what I’m doing.

I’m criticizing the validity of amnesty international because they are trying to pick and chose what war crimes to call out.

Shhhhhh... if he hasn't seen it, they obviously haven't done it.

I see no less that 35 different condemnations of russian war crimes by amnesrty in the past 8 months. So, no, they haven't. https://www.amnesty.org/en/search/Ukraine%20/

Is that why the head of Amnesty's Ukraine office resigned?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/06/amnesty-international-report-sparks-furor-resignation-in-ukraine.html

And once again you're proven wrong if you take a look at the reply from u/skitskat7 .

For those of you who think the ukraine hasn't committed war crimes, msg me.

I have videos of them killing POWs, torturing prisoners, attacking civilians, targeting civilian areas, firing from civilian areas using them as cover, etc.

After +70 years and still "possible"

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>ukraine

Almost certainly didn't have anything to do with Gaza. Ukraine is in northeast Europe, Gaza is in southwestern asia. They're not really close and Ukraine got some..oh how do I say this, more pressing issues?

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No probs needed. All occurred in broad day light in front of the international community. Israel is a war criminal.

What genocide?

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Amnesty is trying so hard to get something to stick to Israel after their report claiming aparthied flopped and was largely rejected by several UN powers

That isn't genocide

Whataboutism - the technique of brushing off criticism when inconvenient examples are brought up

They only care about Israel and ignore the rest of the world

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Yet the population only goes up and there's no mass extermination. It's a bone headed comparison

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No they don't. Germans killed millions of Jews in just a few years while the Palestinian population has only grown in 70 years.

If Israel used the same tactics as Nazi Germany there would be no Arabs there

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Systematic destruction of an ethnic group and its culture falls right under the definition if genocide. Also, Israel is a terrorist state.

I get that Palestinian children are dying, I'm just not seeing how you made the jump from collateral damage to genocide

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I agree that they're targeted, but I think you and I are not seeing eye-to-eye on the targets (since I count extremist Palestinian militants as a legitimate target).

Tell you what, let's prove genocide using something less open to interpretation: whats the Palestinian population compared to 10 years ago?

Edit: I think it's safe to say that based off your silence, you've seen how problematic the claim of Genocide is

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Your redirect and name-calling is very telling about how well you're able to defend your points

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Ah, but you haven't been able to prove your point of Genocide yet... so that's a pretty flaccid statement

True, just like how ignorant people try to antagonise China by claiming that the perfectly legitimate detention camps against terrorists are somehow genocide

Almost as bad as people who say the Native American genocide actually happened, we westerners civilised them and their numbers keep going up

I'm assuming youre being sarcastic... Having a hard time telling because your false-equivalency attempt is loud af

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Because the Native American population has been steadily growing since the settlers arrived there’s no way that any genocide can have happened, and anytime that treaties were violated and the settlers moved into native land it was perfectly legitimate

Same thing goes for the Irish too btw

Where’s the falce equivalency? The council that has members that can literally veto anything that goes against their interests (as Russia is doing right now too by blocking any motion of genocide or abuses against Ukrainian citizens ) is of course the single most reliable source on international politics as nobody has any agenda and truth always prevails

What is a terrorist state? A terrorist is a non state actor so that's pretty much an oxymoron.

Genocide requires mass death and destruction of a people, it's in the word

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I think the key distinction between your examples and mine is you're looking at population growth AFTER an established genocide. The above claim is stating that genocide is currently happening and has been happening for 60 years. There's the equivalency issue.

The evidence just does not support that claim at all

You must have missed the part where SEVERAL countries rejected the Amnesty report (mostly western countries like the UK, Japan, Canada, Germany, etc.).

I also don't see how UN policy has anything to do with various countries leadership rejecting a biased report by an NGO