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notaredditer13 t1_jeddq6s wrote

Dear lord, that's an awful lot of argument against reality. What a sad, pathetic way to live, believing that reality sucks because even though it is actually great it might temporarily get worse in the future, maybe.

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popquizmf t1_jedxoxb wrote

Hold up. Now, I'm. Not suggesting the post above you was all rainbows and dancing, but bro, have you lived under a rock? Shit is less than ideal right now.

Just because it's depressing, doesn't mean it isn't mostly accurate.

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notaredditer13 t1_jeexy7y wrote

>Hold up. Now, I'm. Not suggesting the post above you was all rainbows and dancing, but bro, have you lived under a rock? Shit is less than ideal right now.

Prior post: Things suck.

Me: Things are great.

You: Things are "less than ideal".

There's a wide gulf between "perfect" and "suck" and "less than ideal" fills the entire gulf. "Great" is in there too. You didn't actually disagree with me, you just gave a wishy-washy/meaningless characterization.

No, things are not "ideal' (perfect). I didn't say they were. They're merely great.

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Dracoxidos t1_jee4wuv wrote

To be fair. They're not wrong. It's now a matter of "what do we do about it?"

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Twisted_Cabbage t1_jeejdma wrote

Not wrong, yet still downvoted. Hopium is a powerful drug.

It's the answer to your question about what to do about it that is so depressing and also why so many people are living in a hopium filled fever dream.

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Dracoxidos t1_jegw2ww wrote

I'm a clinical optimist.

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notaredditer13 t1_jeexj3y wrote

It's completely wrong. That's what "argument against reality" means. They're arguing that things (reality) suck, which is objectively false.

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Dracoxidos t1_jegvlho wrote

I guess I should have been more specific about what I'm saying isn't wrong. I'm saying all that stuff that was mentioned does exist, and it does suck. I get that's being subjective and some of the stuff in the comment is probably inconsequential to their immediate personal life. It still sucks. So, what can we do about it?

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notaredditer13 t1_jegxzmq wrote

>I guess I should have been more specific about what I'm saying isn't wrong. I'm saying all that stuff that was mentioned does exist, and it does suck.

No, I know that's what you mean, and it's wrong. Basically everything that guy said that's specific enough or backwards-looking (so available facts to support/refute) is factually wrong. Just one example:

>...crime... are all at all-time highs...

There's lots of different crimes, but most of them peaked in the 1980s. Here's murder:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/187592/death-rate-from-homicide-in-the-us-since-1950/

Note: it went up a bit during COVID to 6.9, still way below what it was in the 1980s.

"violent crime"

https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/IF12281.pdf

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