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RonBourbondi t1_jdzwb2z wrote

Reply to comment by Mobely in BBC News: Clearview AI used nearly 1m times by US police, it tells the BBC by Gigglemind

So don't use all your tools before they kill the child?

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Mobely t1_je038qm wrote

Well if we're going down that road, almost all child kidnappings are done by the kids other parent and it's not to kill them.

So if we are looking to stop all child kidnappings that result in the child's murder, we would have an insanely high false positive result. You'd be jailing thousands of people, leaving their kids orphaned and vulnerable to violence. So yeah, don't use the shitty tools to cause more harm than good.

FP/N=FP/FP+TN

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RonBourbondi t1_je065xw wrote

Nah because this goes off of pictures to identify themselves.

Not only that cops post pictures of suspects on news all the time. Thus AI is no different than crowdsurfing except it is more accurate and better.

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Joe-Schmeaux t1_je0j9l0 wrote

So trust the police with even more powerful tools?

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RonBourbondi t1_je0x8jl wrote

So hinder an investigation and have a child not be saved from murder?

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Joe-Schmeaux t1_je15p0r wrote

So trade one set of murders for another?

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RonBourbondi t1_je16edc wrote

Who's getting murdered from this?

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Joe-Schmeaux t1_je170nr wrote

From the police misusing identification software and apprehending innocent people who end up in prison? Any such person would be at risk for murder or suicide. It's a shitty situation as is, let's not add things that can make it worse and give the already powerful, corrupt police forces of the world even more power. Trusting them to not misuse this can make things even worse, and we'll still have people being kidnapped.

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RonBourbondi t1_je17iu7 wrote

So has there been a single case of them using the AI software and this happened?

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Joe-Schmeaux t1_je18w64 wrote

I just googled it and this was the first article to come up. He spent ten days in jail and $5000 in legal defense. This was three years ago. He may not have suffered physical harm, but the potential for misuse and abuse of this kind of power is concerning.

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usalsfyre t1_je37ndv wrote

You’re not supposed to deep throat the boot….

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