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Sunstang t1_jdnelj4 wrote

There's really not a compelling link between mental illness in a clinical sense, and mass shootings.

What we have is a societal values problem. Societal illness rather than individual mental illness.

We have a society that values access to firearms over the public good, is increasingly tribalized and alienated from a meaningful sense of community, and a significant percent of the population seem to see violence as both an appropriate way to solve problems, and see people ideologically disparate from them as enemies and not deserving of the equal right to exist peaceably.

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SanityIsOptional t1_jdnj8yk wrote

We have a hopelessness problem, people who hate society and want to commit suicide in the most hurtful and sensational manner possible.

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N8CCRG t1_jdnq1sd wrote

And they can often get efficient tools to accomplish that without much difficulty.

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Sunstang t1_jdoh1l6 wrote

Don't know why this is being downvoted. It's not incorrect.

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Charlestwne t1_jdnosvd wrote

Thank you for this. I am so tired of people perpetuating that myth.

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pebkacerrorspersist t1_jdnmaj9 wrote

But when I bring up the fact that so much focus has been put on Girls succeeding and excelling in all areas, and are now WAY beyond the boys in the US in every measurable metrics and that our boys are being left behind and deprioritized, and that is having a SERIOUSLY detrimental effect on our boys mental health and potential future outcomes - I'm called a misogynist.

It's a conversation we're not allowed to have and until we acknowledge that and we correct the lurch and start focusing on building up young men again...this is the world we have.

EDIT: The Downvote brigade has arrived. Until we start raising our boys up to the level of our girls in importance, focus, and funding - You will get more disillusioned, lost, mentally ill YOUNG ADULT MALE shooters. As the problems get worse, the catastrophe that follows will scale up as well, both in frequency and in volume.

I have a daughter, no sons. I realize this is a hard conversation, and goes against every piece of societal programming that has been indoctrinated in you - but rip the band-aid off.

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actvdecay t1_jdnpqnb wrote

There is a men’s crisis going on. Men must unite and help each other. In positive and constructive ways. It is their moment to define a new manhood in this society

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antiproton t1_jdq8ilu wrote

> But when I bring up the fact that so much focus has been put on Girls succeeding and excelling in all areas, and are now WAY beyond the boys in the US in every measurable metrics and that our boys are being left behind and deprioritized, and that is having a SERIOUSLY detrimental effect on our boys mental health and potential future outcomes - I'm called a misogynist.

Prove. It.

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