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torpedoguy t1_jea2pck wrote

Reply to comment by Fit_Ad8096 in No jail time for Kuna couple convicted of felony child abuse by Fit_Ad8096

If you're a woman in America who is or may become pregnant, all Requblicans are an immediate, deadly threat to you. And it won't be a quick or painless death - their legislators have truly gone above and beyond just 'out of their way' to make it as torturous and horrific for their own enjoyment.

All women need to get this through their heads, especially since some Requblican women ARE completely in on this "knowing" they'll be above such laws: They want you dying in excessive agony. It's them or you.

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ibbity t1_jeam2go wrote

I know hella people who are aggressively anti-abortion, and the thing is that it's not that they actively want lots of women to die in pain, as such. What they want is for women to know that that might be their fate if they have sex outside of marriage, and to stay virgins/celibate out of terror. For those who still have sex anyway, they want them to experience pregnancy and childbirth as a punishment for having sex, and then immediately hand over the baby to a more worthy adopting family.

The actual agonizing deaths are more desirable as a threat than as a constant reality, because if they are happening a lot, people might start to turn against the draconian anti-abortion laws. If they only happen occasionally, they serve as deterrents much better. It's not about sadism so much as it's about maintaining control over women and forcing them to "experience consequences" for having sex. Women (specifically) having sex "without consequences," they consider the height of moral depravity. Making it so that women will suffer for having sex is a means to an end (stopping them from having sex), not the end in itself.

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ginga_bread42 t1_jeaod8h wrote

Do they think everyone getting an abortion is throwing all caution to the wind and are unmarried? A lot of women getting abortions are married or in long term relationships and/or already have a kid.

It's also still weird as hell to think that children are a punishment for having sex.

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ibbity t1_jeapiba wrote

Oh, I'm not saying that this mindset isn't completely bonkers in fuckin younkers. But yes, they do assume that nearly all abortions are because some single party girl partied a little too hearty and is now trying to "avoid consequences" (you would not believe how many times they will say that word, it's like their favorite.) And the thing is that if you get one of them alone and talk to them rationally (which is a trick in itself; there's very little if any rationality in this mindset, even if it does have its own coherent internal logic), you can sometimes get them to open the door just a millimeter or so to almost acknowledge that sometimes it is necessary. But it never sticks. And you can't explain to them that "children as a punishment for sex" is fucked up, because they will just tell you that "murdering babies" is much worse.

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torpedoguy t1_jeb9swx wrote

No they think everybody ELSE other than themselves, is a slut who needs to be punished. "The only moral abortion is MY abortion". It's all about the inequality.

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torpedoguy t1_jebadxf wrote

They may claim that, except their bills and actions show otherwise. They want anyone who isn't themselves to be punished and suffer (from destitution, death or anything else), even if you ARE married and WANTED the kid, for the crime of not being them personally.

They pretend they're "saving family" only until they've fucked up everyone else and not a moment later.

  • Even while that's going on they make sure their legislation negatively affects those subject to the law (that they aren't is the point and making it as harsh as possible makes them more special in comparison)

And the moment their grip on part of the population is complete, they go on to what they've already talked about doing; banning contraception and neonatal healthcare from married couples too. "For prosperity jesus".

The cruelty is the point, for only in your suffering is their being immune to the rules which harm you as 'superior' a position as it can be.

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awfulachia t1_jedo6n2 wrote

Except that loving adoptive family isn't there and if they are there they're made to jump through so many expensive hoops its rarely feasible

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