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oldschoolskater OP t1_je6zpxr wrote

"The announcement comes as Fetterman introduces a new bill Wednesday focused on bolstering railway safety regulations in the aftermath of the train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio."

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fido4lilchops t1_je78cxi wrote

Happy Senator Fetterman is getting the mental health assistance he needs.

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Mydickradiates t1_je7crtf wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,462,167)

depends what they did. Ketamine? Electroconvulsive therapy? Gentle counseling with horses? To the moon shrooms? how would you even bet on this? probably look up standard of care for inpatient depression treatment and assume experimental options

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PPQue6 t1_je7n4ot wrote

I'm proud that my senator got the help that he needed, and I hope this helps to motivate others to do the same. Seeking treatment for mental health really needs to be de-stigmatized in this country.

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chrza t1_je7r97t wrote

Let’s be real, who would not be dangerously depressed by the state of the US Senate, especially as an insider?

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CouchRadish t1_je7r9cj wrote

This man will have spent nearly 60% of his time in the Senate hospitalized for depression and is still recovering from a stroke. It’s honestly a bit depressing to see Dems not letting/encouraging this man to resign.

PA’s governor is a Democrat, it’s not like they’d lose a Senate seat. To me it seems like they don’t want to admit that his health is actually an issue after an entire midterm election pretending that it wasn’t.

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peperoniebabie t1_je80m2w wrote

Replying to CouchRadish (#2,467,787)

I don't think you know anything about PA politics. Pat Toomey (R) had occupied this seat for 12 years and PA's voting base is split down the middle. He only won by a 5 percent margin over Doctor Fucking Oz.

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SphericalBasterd t1_je81b04 wrote

Thus the height of conservative sellout cuntism. The senate is adjourned until 04/17/2023.

Thus every republicunt is freeloading until 04/2023 and if you are true to your conservative values, you must carve it out of Ted Cruz's hide.

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MartinRaccoon t1_je81pg5 wrote

Replying to CouchRadish (#2,467,787)

Agreed. His health is a legitimate issue that shouldn't be ignored. It's great he is able to seek help for all his problems. Praise him for seeking help, but also praise him for realizing he's not fit to serve right now. It's how I feel in California with Feinstein.

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BrianThatDude t1_je84fw2 wrote

If he chose to play for the red team rather than the blue team you guys would be having a field day with this whole thing.

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yaki_torii t1_je85pjb wrote

Replying to clintontg (#2,470,668)

That doesn't address what I'm saying. Dianne Feinstein doesn't want to leave either. She's basically being forced to. How is having her resign due to her obviously declining mental health any different from encouraging Fetterman, who's basically spent his whole term so far in a hospital, from doing the same?

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Stolliosis t1_je86dgt wrote

Replying to yaki_torii (#2,471,088)

Diane Feinstein is 900 years old. She is on a one-way trajectory. She will never be stronger and more adept in the future. That cannot be said about Fetterman. That's the difference.

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Relevant_Quantity_49 t1_je86jpx wrote

Replying to PPQue6 (#2,466,932)

From the article:

>Fetterman's chief of staff, Adam Jentleson, and Communications Director Joe Calvello have been visiting him at Walter Reed daily this week, Calvello told NBC, saying “he’s in the zone” and “excited to get back to the Senate.” The Pennsylvania senator has been working from Walter Reed since checking in for treatment in mid-February, with staff citing challenges after a stroke.

In order to de-stigmatize mental health issues, this is exactly the sort of thing people need to see and support: a person accommodated in their professional life while also seeking appropriate treatment. It shouldn't have to be either/or because for many people it can't be.

Compassion isn't a statement; it's a question. Instead of saying, "People with X can't do Y," we should be asking "What can we do so you are successful at Y?"

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PPQue6 t1_je876gy wrote

Replying to Relevant_Quantity_49 (#2,471,257)

Abso-freaking-loutely!!!! And further to that point, this illustrates why we need easy access to these services regardless of income level. This positive outcome was entirely because of his ability to access the care he needed.

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clintontg t1_je880il wrote

Replying to yaki_torii (#2,471,088)

I'd say it should be based on his prognosis and his personal wishes. If he really can't execute his duties in the office then maybe he should leave. If he's on the mend, wants to be there, and is cognitively capable of doing the job then why not?

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initiatefailure t1_je89noe wrote

Singsong shantying: soon may the fetter man come to bring us radical social is um

(Reference was a ballin attack ad that just made fetterman seem awesome, if you haven’t watched it I recommend it highly)

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yaki_torii t1_je89x8l wrote

Replying to Stolliosis (#2,471,226)

High stress environments, such as lawmaking and campaigning, are not conducive to stroke recovery. Fetterman might have more wiggle room than Feinstein but thats not saying much, and if he's dogged about staying in the senate, then it's a smart bet that he won't recover well enough.

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Trafficsigntruther t1_je8fq9v wrote

Replying to DeliciousBeanWater (#2,473,111)

> Next scheduled senate election for pa is 2024.

And it’s for Bob Casey’s seat, not Fetterman’s. It’s completely irrelevant to the special election. The last time there was a vacancy in a PA Senate seat, there was an election in 1991, and odd year that wasn’t scheduled for a senate election (obviously).

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SofieTerleska t1_je8g8ox wrote

Replying to CouchRadish (#2,467,787)

I'm very glad he beat Oz but it's getting increasingly uncomfortable to see this getting the relentlessly positive spin. He's broadening the Senate by using speech to text! He's bringing awareness to mental health issues! None of those are bad things but it's one thing to have a handle on your disability and choose to start a campaign vs. getting knocked down by a goddamn stroke mid-campaign and be figuring out your recovery and the Senate environment at the same time. That's too much to cope with. Being hospitalized for depression for weeks is very, very far out of the norm and makes me think he either has very, very serious mental shit going on or they were trying to hide physical fallout from his stroke. I would be really surprised if he isn't hospitalized again within a few months. I hope I'm wrong, I wish him only the best, but what he's contending with right now is insane.

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CouchRadish t1_je8gr9i wrote

Replying to SofieTerleska (#2,473,425)

I sense a very distinct sharing between that forced positivity towards a Senator spending months institutionalized with depression and modern self-care ✨ mentalities of being okay with things like throwing away the majority of your personal responsibilities for the sake of mental stability.

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Trafficsigntruther t1_je8hi5i wrote

Replying to DeliciousBeanWater (#2,473,585)

> What does this dudes biography have to do with when a special election would be held should he step down?

He was appointed to the US Senate to fill a vacancy in 1991 and then had to run again in November 1991. That was the last time there was a Senate vacancy in PA where a special election had to occur.

> .com and .org websites are not valid sources.

Quoted.

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DeliciousBeanWater t1_je8iv85 wrote

Replying to Trafficsigntruther (#2,473,807)

Lol thats not my claim. That info is found in the link you provided you walnut. PA holds their special elections concurrent with scheduled statewide general elections aka 2024. November 8 is a municipal election in PA. Smh youre literally contradicting yourself

ETA since youve dirty deleted your response which was something like “theres special elections schedule in pa for this nov”

Those special elections are all for state legislature seats.

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all_of_the_lightss t1_je8kj7f wrote

Replying to Willow-girl (#2,473,473)

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-raised-million-days-after-posting-arrest-inidctment-truth-social-2023-3

Trump's fans sent him $1.5 million in 3 days
after he falsely predicted that he'd be
arrested.

A literal domestic terrorist is running for office, unchallenged.

Lobbyists exist on both sides.

We still would have been better off 100x amidst a pandemic and today with President Hillary Clinton.

And last I checked, the fundraising NRA doesn't donate their domestic terrorist blood money to Dems.

Biden 2024. Fuck Donald Trump and every Republican standing behind him

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km89 t1_je8koaz wrote

Replying to CouchRadish (#2,473,530)

>modern self-care ✨ mentalities of being okay with things like throwing away the majority of your personal responsibilities for the sake of mental stability.

Do you need a mop to clean up the condescension you just dripped all over the floor?

Dude's been hospitalized for weeks. This is either a suicide attempt or fallout from his stroke, or both. Question his current fitness to hold office all you want, but throwing away your mental health for the sake of impressing people who would approve of that is just fucking stupid.

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km89 t1_je8kux0 wrote

Replying to BrianThatDude (#2,470,756)

If he were on the red team, he'd be taking advantage of the best healthcare in the country to get a service his party is derisive at best about.

But he's not. He's on the team who thinks it's entirely appropriate to, you know, not ignore mental health problems severe enough that you need to be hospitalized.

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CouchRadish t1_je8mo3e wrote

Replying to km89 (#2,474,377)

You might picking up all your straw? I never dismissed him for having to be hospitalized for depression (to be frank the only ones dismissing that are the people clamoring for him to be back to working in the Senate). I was dismissing the people forcing positivity on this situation by trying to rephrase everything they had to change to let a stroke victim in recovery do his job as a senator as a positive.

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SeaWitch1031 t1_je9fhrz wrote

Replying to BrianThatDude (#2,470,756)

No because that is the difference between Democrats and Republicans. We take the high road, every time. We don't mock people for having a mental illness. When McConnell fell last month everyone on the blue side wished him well. People in his own party mocked him.

Hope that clears things up for you.

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ImpressiveScience856 t1_je9hq6k wrote

Replying to Simon_Jester88 (#2,479,997)

Yeah I don’t know how there isn’t a more mutual understanding online that both parties absolutely suck…. I can’t call out one party without someone pointing at you and calling out the other party like somehow my constructive criticism immediately meant I’m on the opposing side. They have us right where they want us though….

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ImpressiveScience856 t1_je9jynu wrote

Replying to all_of_the_lightss (#2,481,150)

And this is exactly what I’m talking about 😂 exactly we can’t snap our fingers and change it because it’s a show! Both of these presidents have been an absolute disaster. And even so the sad thing is trump passed more gun control than biden ever will I’m sure nothing will be done about it hasn’t yet why would it now it’s all talk and banter to keep you acting just like this. Not necessarily the topic we are on but just an example. But that’s all I’m gonna say because I’m not gonna be apart of exactly what they want.

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realcoldskingamer t1_je9p3sd wrote

This doesn’t look great for him. It’ll be used heavily by the republicans in election season.

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FindingMoi t1_je9pixt wrote

Replying to Relevant_Quantity_49 (#2,471,257)

Exactly. We should be pointing to this when people start on their “it’s not a gun problem, it’s a mental health problem” bullshit. It’s a both problem, but since ya’ll want to talk about mental health, why don’t we do something about it?

Fetterman was in a position of privilege to be able to get the care he needed but everyone should have access, with no stigma and no fear that they’ll lose their jobs. Fetterman basically said “fuck stigma, this is what I need to do the job” and he sought the care he needed. Hopefully, it encourages others to do the same, and now he’s in a position to actually use that privilege he has and his elected position to make it happen for everyone else.

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Samisoffline t1_je9qz7j wrote

Replying to PPQue6 (#2,466,932)

I’m so happy he won. He didn’t just say mental health is important and needs to be taken care of he proved it by his own actions.

Side note: my favorite thing to come out of his break is the conspiracies that he was replaced with a BODY DOUBLE. John Fetterman replaced by a body double is the most hilarious idea I’ve seen in a while.

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chaqalaqalaqa t1_je9r28n wrote

Replying to CouchRadish (#2,467,787)

Two months out of a 6-year term isn’t that much. And the Senate hasn’t had any actual work to do because nothing from the House is worth passing.

I’m glad he took a few weeks to get himself good and now he can go back to work.

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keysandtreesforme t1_je9r7sm wrote

Replying to realcoldskingamer (#2,482,606)

Who fucking cares, honestly. They’ll use anything and everything. I, for one, look forward to him owning it and throwing it right back at them. He’s a real person with real problems who works hard for solutions, and his constituents will absolutely see that.

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Crumblymumblybumbly t1_jea562r wrote

Replying to SofieTerleska (#2,473,425)

This pearl-clutching faux concern is what's insane.

The dude got treatment and has been cleared by medical professionals. You are not one of them.

Time to stop blowing this situation out of proportion. Fetterman can write legislation and pass bills. That's all he needs to do .

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CouchRadish t1_jea8h6b wrote

Replying to Crumblymumblybumbly (#2,486,939)

Why are you pretending it’s not a concern? Hospitalization over depression is “normalizing mental health” like not putting a gun in your mouth is normalizing proper gun handling. People are only hospitalized for depression when symptoms are so severe you can’t function as a person and/or at active risk for suicide. And right now Fetterman is dealing with said overwhelming depression because of his stroke last year.

The only people accusing others of not “giving a flying fuck about his health” want to keep this man in his senate seat no matter what. Fetterman could be throwing up blood onto the senate floor and Reddit would be cheering on how this is “normalizing cleanup crews”.

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Willow-girl t1_jea931e wrote

Replying to all_of_the_lightss (#2,474,341)

What does any of that have to do with the price of tea in China? Politicians on both sides of the aisle are expected to raise money for their party. If you want lucrative committee appointments, you have to buy them. Edited to add a source from the other side of the aisle: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2017/07/21/problems-with-the-committee-tax-in-congress/

It's simply the way the game is played (although in all honesty, my comment is somewhat tongue-in-cheek, as Fetterman -- being a career politician -- undoubtedly knew this long ago).

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Crumblymumblybumbly t1_jea9mct wrote

Replying to CouchRadish (#2,487,908)

>Why are you pretending it’s not a concern?

I'm not "pretending" anything. It's clearly not a concern for you because you want him out of office regardless of what he has decided with his doctors.

It's not a concern for me because I am not a medical professional and have no right to pretend concern over someone who has been cleared by medical professionals and has chosen to return to work.

>Hospitalization over depression is “normalizing mental health”

Correct. It's normalizing seeking proper treatment for mental health issues. That's exactly what you're supposed to do --- seek treatment. And once you get the treatment, you can go back to what you were doing before. Same as with a broken arm or a colonoscopy or whatever.

>The only people accusing others of not “giving a flying fuck about his health” want to keep this man in his senate seat no matter what

The only people claiming he's "not fit for office" are armchair Reddit idiots who want him out of office no matter what, and are still salty that Oz lost.

If Fetterman's doctors told him he wasn't fit to serve, and he made the decision to resign, that would be different. But that hasn't happened.

>Fetterman could be throwing up blood onto the senate floor and Reddit would be cheering on how this is “normalizing cleanup crews”.

This is your fantastical hyper-active imagination, no one else's.

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Teftthebridgeman t1_jealiee wrote

Had a stroke, and it affects everyone different but my highs and lows can be extreme.

I'm proud and happy he was aware enough to seek help when he needed.

This guy is a real hero to me.

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bwfwg4isdl t1_jeav5vw wrote

As a German my head always translates that name to fat man.

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Simon_Jester88 t1_jeblumk wrote

Replying to all_of_the_lightss (#2,481,367)

Trump banned bump stocks after the Vegas shooting. Was the right move but just a drop in the bucket for what's needed in America.

Countless common sense laws could be implemented but they should be done through Congress, I don't think this is an issue that should be handled through the bully pulpit.

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