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hate_tank t1_jatgjfu wrote

r/neckbeard moment

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Croce11 t1_jdgeaga wrote

You don't just accidentally fall on a dick and get knocked up. It's sort of an involved process. With several....SEVERAL... (optional) steps that can prevent said pregnancy from ever starting in the first place. This isn't like getting some random illness you never saw coming.

Abortions in a case that would save a mothers life from potential certain death during an abnormal pregnancy? Sure have one. Get raped by some scumbag? Abort away. Be an irresponsible adult and skip the dozens of optional steps to avoid getting pregnant in the first place? That's your problem. A self created problem. How the fuck does this make me a "neckbeard" for telling people to take responsibility for their own actions? Being a fucking adult is the antithesis of being some whiny (wo)manchild begging the government to save them from their own stupidity.

The issue is also not black and white despite constantly being argued in such a manner. I'm not some republican "lololol save their lives in the womb let them die outside the womb lololol keep healthcare shit". Yeah we need better healthcare too. Because I actually do care about people living and getting a chance to experience life to the fullest. Such a shocking, selfish, and brutal opinion to have I guess. Absolute neckbeard moment to have basic human empathy and to want people to grow the fuck up and be responsible enough so they aren't ruining more lives than just their own.

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sickofthisshit t1_jdh4z6n wrote

You still don't understand that pregnancy itself can be the danger, with all your "responsibility" bullshit. Responsible women who want to be pregnant and have a baby can get ectopic pregnancies---there is nothing they can do to be "responsible" for that. The only treatment is abortion. Fetuses can develop anomalies and not be compatible with life outside the womb---today, there are women with those fetuses who cannot get an abortion they need because of laws you people passed.

You aren't showing "human empathy", you are showing the opposite: an inability to understand what kind of health care women and girls need. I don't know why you care about some women getting abortions, but it is not your business.

Abortion is health care for women and girls.

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NicNicNicHS t1_jatlm1h wrote

Gamer dude online gives shitty opinion not even his own mother would care to hear

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sickofthisshit t1_jdh64xt wrote

They work at Subway making sandwiches, but we are supposed to look to them for moral approval.

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Croce11 t1_jdgdnud wrote

Actually my own mother agrees. Continue to be wrong more please. All I see is someone projecting their bullshit onto me, since my "opinion" was more or less based in facts.

People would be breaking the law, and you don't just accidentally fall on a dick and get knocked up. It's sort of an involved process. With several....SEVERAL... (optional) steps that can prevent said pregnancy from ever starting in the first place. This isn't like getting some random illness you never saw coming.

Also I'm very reasonable if you ever bothered to ask instead of skipping to some shitty baseless insult. Abortions in a case that would save a mothers life from potential certain death during an abnormal pregnancy? Sure have one. Get raped by some scumbag? Abort away. Be an irresponsible adult and skip the dozens of optional steps to avoid getting pregnant in the first place? That's your problem. A self created problem.

The issue is not black and white. And I'm not some republican "lololol save their lives in the womb let them die outside the womb lololol keep healthcare shit". Yeah we need better healthcare too. Because I actually do care about people living and getting a chance to experience life to the fullest. Such a shocking, selfish, and brutal opinion to have I guess.

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sickofthisshit t1_jdh5iun wrote

No woman or girl should need your approval for an abortion. It is none of your business what health care they need and receive. And you fucking work at Subway making sandwiches---what kind of qualification is that?

>Because I actually do care about people living and getting a chance to experience life to the fullest.

No you don't. You and your laws are going to kill women and girls. You are going to kill mothers who leave living children behind. All because you have a twisted idea about whether they met your incel idea of responsibility.

Killing women and girls because of your own theoretical beliefs is indeed "shocking, selfish, and brutal". That is the result of your belief, even if your mom tells you otherwise.

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sickofthisshit t1_jatsb9f wrote

Tell me you know nothing about women and girls who need abortions without telling me.

Many women with pregnancies they wanted to have and wanted to carry to term need abortions to save their life. Girls who had no choice need abortions, too.

Their blood is on your hands, with your incel "abortion is for dumb sluts, huh huh huh" attitude.

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Croce11 t1_jdgc5fu wrote

Point out the part where I was pro banning abortions that saved lives? Obviously exceptions exist. Project your own incel baggage on someone else.

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sickofthisshit t1_jdh49ur wrote

I am the opposite of incel, I have a wife and daughter who need health care.

"Exceptions" in these laws do not work. Doctors cannot be sure that a prosecutor and jury will agree that a woman's life was actually in danger. Because these laws make abortion a crime by default. A doctor who uses the exception can still be put on trial and risk his or her license to practice and jail if someone disagrees about the risk in a court room a year later.

The only reason they put these "exceptions" in the law is to allow people like you to pretend they exist. Doctors stop performing abortions. Women with dead babies inside don't get abortions any more, because they aren't in the emergency room, and by the time they are, it is probably too late. Women with ectopic pregnancies die because the medicines aren't available in their state, or now they need a fallopian tube removed (possibly making them sterile) because the pill they could take is illegal to prescribe or dispense.

Abortion is health care for women and girls. I want them to get that care and you don't. Mine is the moral position, because I care about the women and girls who need it. Yours is the immoral position that they aren't allowed the health care they need.

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