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antichain t1_j8y8jfq wrote
The Hot Zone was widely panned by virologists for fear-mongering and exaggerating the terror and grossness of Ebola.
It was critiqued in David Quamen's excellent book Spillover, which is a much more scientifically informed discussion of zoonotic viruses and how they spillover.
Read that, not The Hot Zone.
traegeryyc t1_j8y95sx wrote
Spillover didnt act as a catalyst to create billions in funding for vaccine research on hemorrhagic fevers, but Hot Zone did. Not to mention the incredible attention it brought to the conditions in that part of the world.
Nobody gives a shit about it being too gross for virologists as a piece of literature or tv or movies. The 2 latter of which, the other book has none to their credit.
Like a moth to a flame. There is always one guy who sees this title and has to make this asinine comment.
antichain t1_j8y9vpe wrote
Nothing that you said makes it an "excellent" book. It may have had a positive impact, but that's largely independent of the quality of the book - a lot of what is in The Hot Zone is just straight-up factually incorrect. In a work of scientific nonfiction, that's pretty much a disqualifier in my mind.
In fact, you could argue that it is the poor qualities of the book that prompted the billions of funding (since exaggerated fear-mongering makes a larger impact than measured, conservative science).
Extension-Mall6761 t1_j8zwzqm wrote
And the Last of Us has sparked a huge interest into research on cordyseps It’s literally a sci fi book. Chill out.
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traegeryyc t1_j8yaone wrote
Ironically many of those same virologists that "widely panned" the book, benefitted greatly from the grants it made available to them.
I think you are more upset than they are.
antichain t1_j8yb5e0 wrote
I just think that if people are looking for a popular science book to read about zoonotic spillover, they would probably get more out of Spillover than the Hot Zone, since it's a more scientifically informed book.
Idk why you're stanning so hard for The Hot Zone - it's not super crazy that as time goes on, science advances, and more recent books improve on earlier ones.
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missypierce t1_j8yl7lf wrote
It sounds like some people are reading the Hot Zone as a science book.
traegeryyc t1_j8ylbe9 wrote
Right? Its not a fucking textbook. Its a novel.
antichain t1_j8yctap wrote
So...you just don't like it when you don't get uniform adulation and upvotes? Presenting even the mildest challenge (informed by scientists who work in the field) is enough to trigger ad-hominem attacks like "shitstain."
That seems kind of silly and fragile, imo.
The Martian doesn't present itself as nonfiction. The Hot Zone does.
traegeryyc t1_j8ydk2s wrote
I dunno. I recently split open my leg. From my POV, it was a gushing disaster, and that's how I wrote it down. The emerg physician saw it as 3 stitches in his overworked world.
I got the book deal, he is still on 36h shifts.
Mine was a true account. The doctor's was far too non-graphic to truly explain the situation and emotions.
And to be clear. I am not discounting your book nor promoting the one I mentioned. I am just tired of Hot Zone Haters seeing a notification in their feed and coming and shitting on the book.
Its so predictable. Your book was written by a travel blogger .
Dovienya55 t1_j8z46gy wrote
Nah, I'm a random passerby and I agree with traegeryyc. You sound like you read technical manuals for fun on a Friday night, and brag about it to anyone that'll listen.
sluttyjamjams73 t1_j8zj4tp wrote
You sound like your mom types out your comments and reads back the responses because you can't do either.
Dovienya55 t1_j90w4me wrote
Turkey would appreciate it if yo mama stopped doing jumping jacks.
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sluttyjamjams73 t1_j9lcfma wrote
That's fair.
dblan9 t1_j8xbig3 wrote
That is on my list but do you know if the tv is show any good as well since it was developed from the book?
spidergyaru t1_j8xnkua wrote
the show is a decent representation of the novel, i enjoyed it, but it’s primarily for entertainment. i’m glad i read the novel before i saw the show.
whos_this_chucker t1_j8yrpz9 wrote
The movie Outbreak is also based on this book.
traegeryyc t1_j8xbwfn wrote
I havent seen the show
Testsubject28 t1_j8yj249 wrote
That book gave me nightmares. Same with Demon in the Freezer.
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Technicolor_Reindeer t1_j8y5es2 wrote
Remember when we looked down on people in Ebola affected countries for attacking medical personnel? Yeah we owe them an apology, at least they didn't have actual politicians trying to criminalize giving vaccines. I bet we could have an ebola/marbug outbreak and the same crowd of morons would be screaming about Arby's being closed.
Extension-Mall6761 t1_j8zx6ko wrote
We also had actual politicians and doctors trying to criminalize non consent to a medical procedure
amylucha t1_j9070u1 wrote
Something tells me you might not know what “criminalize” means.
fasttravelsnow t1_j91424h wrote
Or medical procedure
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Rizla_TCG t1_j8xip2w wrote
Paywall down https://archive.ph/QE4ya
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ConspiracyPhD t1_j8xuz1e wrote
That's not the reason. The infectious period is actually quite long. And average time to death from onset of disease is around 8-9 days. Initial symptoms aren't all that severe and often just mimic cold/flu fever and chills and last around 5 days before more severe symptoms appear. People are infectious from the onset of symptoms. A person remains infectious even after they die for a period of time as well.
The reason they don't go pandemic is because they aren't airborne. They require close contact with bodily fluids of an infected individual. The current outbreak in Equatorial Guinea is epidemiologically linked to funeral traditions where the body is washed by relatives before burial pretty much assuring direct contact with bodily fluids.
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cwn01 t1_j8y9e5d wrote
Can't read the Washington Post article without giving personal data (email address).
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ClammyHandedFreak t1_j8ype2p wrote
Use a burner address - why do you only have one email in 2023?
iPeculiarly t1_j8z03ks wrote
All of them were used up buy people wasting them, they are precious commodities, you think Kimberly@gmail.com is going to be available for my grandchild if I didn't get it first?
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traegeryyc t1_j8wyy3t wrote
The Hot Zone was an excellent book about the emergence of these viruses, especially marburg.