drawkbox t1_j90d69k wrote
Kremlin have such theater going on in Syria. I feel bad that they have been leveraged by the Octopus fully since Soviets backed the Syrian Islamic Revolution and put in both Assad and his father. The whole theater is a bunch of false opposition, most foreign ISIS fighters are from Russia (Chechnya) and have done nearly all the attacks in Western Europe, Syria, Iraq and more.
All intel agencies know this and it is ridiculous they keep trying to play the War on Terror. That game is over, shroud lifted, Russia/China in the spotlight.
byOlaf t1_j9246nt wrote
Do you have any evidence of these claims?
drawkbox t1_j93or5c wrote
Sure beyond the obviousness of this going on here you go...
Russia, Chechnya and Dagestan and others supplied 5k fighters at minimum
> - Russia: 5,000 (380 returnees)
> - Tunisia: 4,000 (900 returnees)
> - Jordan: 3,950 (250 returnees)
> - Saudi Arabia: 3,244 (760 returnees)
> - Turkey: 3,000 (900 returnees)
> - Uzbekistan: 2,500
> - France: 1,910 (398 returnees)
> - Morocco: 1,699 (236 returnees)
> - Tajikistan: 1,502 (147 returnees)
> - China: 1,000
> - Germany: 960 (303 returnees)
> - Lebanon: 900
> - Azerbaijan: 900 (49 returnees)
> - Kyrgyzstan: 863 (63 returnees)
> - United Kingdom: 850 (425 returnees)
> - Indonesia: 800 (183 returnees)
> - Kazakhstan: 600 (113-128 returnees)
> - Libya: 600
> - Egypt: 600
> - Turkmenistan: 500
> Fighters include those from the Gulf Arab states, Tunisia (following its own Tunisian revolution), Libya (following the Libyan Civil War), China, other Arab states, Russia, including the North Caucasus region, and Western countries. Some jihadist groups are dominated by a single nationality, as is the case with the Caucasus Emirate (Chechens) and the Turkistan Islamic Party (Uyghurs), or the pro-government Afghan Shia Liwa Fatemiyoun.
> A 7 December 2015 report by the Soufan Group gave estimates for the number of foreign fighters in Syria and Iraq by their country and region of origin based on information dated between 2014 and 2015. The study, which only included foreign fighters with ISIL, al-Nusra and other Sunni jihadist factions, listed the countries with the largest number of foreign fighters were Tunisia (6000), Saudi Arabia (2500), Russia (2400), Turkey (2100), Jordan (2000+) while the number of fighters by region was reported to be: the Middle East (8240), the Maghreb (8000), Western Europe (5000), former Soviet Republics (4700), Southeast Asia (900), the Balkans (875), and North America (289)
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byOlaf t1_j9420j2 wrote
I guess it's a question of phraseology. When you said 'most foreign ISIS fighters were from Russia', you meant 'the largest single contingent of fighters were Russian'. Right? Otherwise that chart proves the opposite of what you were saying. But I get your point. You think the preponderance of Russian troops implies Russian control of the situation. I don't think you've proven that, but I suppose it's probably not very provable as it were.
As for the rest of what you were saying... yeah. It's all pretty true. It's been the playbook for a long time. It's honestly one of Russia's greatest exports, the Paranoid State. That's the Soviet system of government, despite the label.
drawkbox t1_j94656o wrote
Most foreign ISIS fighters are from Russia (Chechnya). The ones that aren't were pumped by Kremlin propaganda.
Nearly all the terror attacks in Europe (UK/France/etc) were by a Chechen or Russian, even the Boston bombings were Chechens. Most European terrorist attacks were Chechens.
The others were funded, fronted and supplied by Russian weaponry...
jibjaba4 t1_j9399hc wrote
While I generally approve of anti-Putin sentiment he's just wrong. There were some significant Chechen groups in Syria but were a tiny fraction of the opposition overall. Russia also heavily backed Assad, the link between Russia and Assad was probably a major motivator for the Chechens.
byOlaf t1_j93fm0d wrote
I know he's wrong, that's why I was asking for evidence of his claims. Extraordinary claims and all that...
This seems like some conspiracy theorist and the fact that he will never return with evidence should speak louder than anything I could say to rebut it.
drawkbox t1_j93otns wrote
"I'm baaaaaaccckkkkk"
Hey, how cute, you found a friend. Look at you guys, you work well together. "Do you make an effective team?" -- Tet
There is more where this came from...
Sure beyond the obviousness of this going on here you go...
Russia, Chechnya and Dagestan and others supplied 5k fighters at minimum
> - Russia: 5,000 (380 returnees)
> - Tunisia: 4,000 (900 returnees)
> - Jordan: 3,950 (250 returnees)
> - Saudi Arabia: 3,244 (760 returnees)
> - Turkey: 3,000 (900 returnees)
> - Uzbekistan: 2,500
> - France: 1,910 (398 returnees)
> - Morocco: 1,699 (236 returnees)
> - Tajikistan: 1,502 (147 returnees)
> - China: 1,000
> - Germany: 960 (303 returnees)
> - Lebanon: 900
> - Azerbaijan: 900 (49 returnees)
> - Kyrgyzstan: 863 (63 returnees)
> - United Kingdom: 850 (425 returnees)
> - Indonesia: 800 (183 returnees)
> - Kazakhstan: 600 (113-128 returnees)
> - Libya: 600
> - Egypt: 600
> - Turkmenistan: 500
> Fighters include those from the Gulf Arab states, Tunisia (following its own Tunisian revolution), Libya (following the Libyan Civil War), China, other Arab states, Russia, including the North Caucasus region, and Western countries. Some jihadist groups are dominated by a single nationality, as is the case with the Caucasus Emirate (Chechens) and the Turkistan Islamic Party (Uyghurs), or the pro-government Afghan Shia Liwa Fatemiyoun.
> A 7 December 2015 report by the Soufan Group gave estimates for the number of foreign fighters in Syria and Iraq by their country and region of origin based on information dated between 2014 and 2015. The study, which only included foreign fighters with ISIL, al-Nusra and other Sunni jihadist factions, listed the countries with the largest number of foreign fighters were Tunisia (6000), Saudi Arabia (2500), Russia (2400), Turkey (2100), Jordan (2000+) while the number of fighters by region was reported to be: the Middle East (8240), the Maghreb (8000), Western Europe (5000), former Soviet Republics (4700), Southeast Asia (900), the Balkans (875), and North America (289)
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drawkbox t1_j93p2po wrote
When are people going to learn that the Kremlin has a favored side but manipulates all sides? Kremlin strategy all through history since the Empire is to control false opposition first, then allow more easy victories when you can pressure from both ends.
Russia has backed Syria since the Syrian Islamic Revolution which they help them with since the 1940s-1950s, they put in Assad and his father. They regularly mess with their leveraged assets. When any start to make any Western move, they attack them and then say, "look at what the West did".
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