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chewbaccawastrainedb t1_j8to90v wrote

It says 25 days without food or water but if you don't drink water in over 3 days you start dying. So going for 25 days seems rather suspect.

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dogsent t1_j8trj9n wrote

Today people say they are fasting, but still drink juice.

Fasting during Ramadan means abstinence from all food or drink, including water and chewing gum, from dawn to sunset.

We don't know what Jesus did. All the writings were done after he died. Also, 40 days is a symbolic number, so that could be inaccurate.

Fasting would not be a common practice if people died frequently.

Definitely suspect.

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vahntitrio t1_j8tt29d wrote

40 isn't a symbolic number - it's just a translation thing. Imagine putting the number 7 in the place of every instance of the word several.

40 is inserted in the bible wherever a word that should more closely be translated to "many" appeared.

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ericisshort t1_j8tvbsa wrote

Interesting. Where did you learn this?

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vahntitrio t1_j8twy21 wrote

I have a friend with a PhD in Religious Studies (focused mostly on the old testament and Hebrew), he mentioned it to me.

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Ironwolf7448 t1_j8v0xha wrote

Can you ask your friend what the fuck is up with the bears for me?

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doogle_126 t1_j8vjzts wrote

Elisha and God didn't like the teenagers. So bears ate them.

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nWo1997 t1_j8w8qd3 wrote

I heard that the bear thing was less "a group of wee ones call a man bald" ("go up, baldie") and more "a mob of young men threateningly group up and shout at a man to die" ("go up, baldie").

It was in one of those "what does everyone get wrong about the Bible" threads on r/askreddit.

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TucuReborn t1_j8wxjb5 wrote

This is also the case for a lot of religious texts.

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Zootguy1 t1_j8tw2rd wrote

it's totally crazy though. I go that long without eating (still taking liquid) and I feel like a deadman walking 2 weeks...

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dogsent t1_j8u3ysd wrote

According to the story, Jesus fasted until he had visions. I don't know what that means. I think he was trying to have visions. He was in the desert. So even with drinking water the body gets dehydrated.

Anyway, weird story. And a pretty dumb idea to try doing a fast like that.

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Zootguy1 t1_j8u4ac3 wrote

not eating till you trip out in the desert sounds like a death sentence. unless you're Jesus

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dogsent t1_j8u7lv4 wrote

He had angels taking care of him. Snacks don't count when you're fasting if they came from angels.

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arealhumannotabot t1_j8yacew wrote

>Today people say they are fasting, but still drink juice.

There are huge forums of people ho do proper fasting, I'm not sure what you're referring to. Sounds like some people trying other things, orthey're calling it a "juice fast" referring to the liquid diet, and you're not framing it properly.

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TyphoidMary234 t1_j8tubth wrote

Too bad you didn’t copy the part where he said from dawn to sunset, which is a fancy way of saying, only at night. Read before you start typing lmao.

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FamiliarTry403 t1_j8unig9 wrote

The rule of 3 is not a definitive rule, the record is 18 days without water

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Flashy_Attitude_1703 t1_j8vthwq wrote

My mother refused to eat or drink when she was 92 and she passed after a week.

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Leifseed t1_j99xys2 wrote

Why'd she do that? Was she just ready to go you think?

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Flashy_Attitude_1703 t1_j9bbtz7 wrote

My mother had Alzheimers, heart problems and other medical issues. Because of her Alzheimers she was in a memory care facility for many years. She was 92 and refused eat or drink. I think she decided it was time. It was decided to let her go rather than force feed her. The staff there kept her as comfortable as possible until she passed and my sister was there for her. Unfortunately I was too late to say goodbye.

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PyrrhoTheSkeptic t1_j8u1wtq wrote

I did a quick search on this. The world record is 18 days, and even that isn't a proper record without water:

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>Andreas Mihavecz, an 18-year-old Austrian man, may have survived the longest without drinking water: Police accidentally left him in a holding cell for 18 days in 1979. It's a fuzzy record, though, since he allegedly licked condensation off the walls of the prison.

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-the-longest-people-have-survived-without-air-food-water-sunshine-or-sleep

So he got some moisture licking the walls during that 18 day period, so even that was not completely without water.

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It is probably just false that this pastor went without water for 25 days.

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One must be an idiot to attempt to go 40 days without food or water. Food, that is possible (though not a good idea), but not water.

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ForgingIron t1_j8up2ei wrote

> Food, that is possible

I looked it up and even the Bible, all versions I could find and read, only mention that Jesus went without food. Nothing about water.

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laughs_with_salad t1_j8vjuif wrote

How are people people being rescued even after 10 days in the rubble in the turkey earthquake? They must not have had any food or water. Even some kids are surviving.

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ibbity t1_j8xay4c wrote

If it's rained since then, they could get some water dripping down through the cracks maybe

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