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Megaloman71 t1_j9gt1tw wrote

I'm sure the people who voted for zero government will demand the government do something about this.

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Elfere t1_j9gtqc9 wrote

Derailments happen all the time

As a defence for train derailments is the same kinda logical fallacy in used to seeing in America.

Another mass shooting in only country where this routinely happens! Where its super easy to get guns! And no one knows why.

Yeah. We all know why.

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dbhathcock t1_j9gu40l wrote

Since train derailments are in the spotlight right now, I would have thought that they would be taking extra precautions to ensure a derailment couldn’t happen.

Mayor Pete, why can’t you put hefty fines on the railways for all train derailments? In addition to fines, enforce proper cleanup and also have them pay a huge sum to the citizens that the derailments affect. If derailments drastically affected their bottom line, these companies would take action to prevent them.

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alabastergrim t1_j9guzb1 wrote

These articles are going to keep popping up until the news finds something else to focus on, aren't they?

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StoriesSoReal t1_j9gvakx wrote

Replying to AudibleNod (#1,906,136)

I think it's normal for everyday people to freak out about something like this after the disaster that East Palestine is. The overreporting of every train derailment is definitely driving anxiety for people imo. This particular line in Nebraska is owned by the UP and is a main thoroughfare for coal from the powder river basin going East. Coal cars weigh A LOT. We're talking 140 tons per car and a lot of trains are now 120 cars long depending on if the utility they are going to can handle it. That is a lot of wear and tear on any steel track. It's especially hard on them when there is something like a stuck brake or a flat wheel.

There are places in Wyoming and Nebraska that have huge, seemingly random, turn around spots next to railroad tracks where they have buried coal from derailments that are paved over. Definitely not within EPA clean-up standards. Most people are none the wiser about it.

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ursixx t1_j9gw8zz wrote

Whew not Göteborg/Gothenburg..

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itsajaguar t1_j9gwyux wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,906,076)

Is this the new double standard for Democrats? The Secretary of Transportation has to show up to every single of the thousands of derailments a year when the president is a Democrat?

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Maltavius t1_j9gx44u wrote

That's no way near Gothenburg Sweden.... Yeesh USA need to get their own names for cities...

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6FartMouth9 t1_j9gxgzk wrote

Replying to Plaineswalker (#1,906,877)

It is communism. People don't want to pay for the shipping needed for these trains much less the rail. If the people of Ohio wanted good rail maybe they could have bought a subscription to a rail repair service instead of waiting for the government (look howwell that worked) to fix it.

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Megaloman71 t1_j9gyl01 wrote

Replying to 6FartMouth9 (#1,907,074)

The government doesn't own rail lines or the land they're on. What the government CAN do is regulate the railroads, but the people accusing Biden of not immediately sending the GDP to Ohio also voted for people who work for the rail lobby and have spent decades deregulating tracks and trains.

It's frustrating beyond frustrating to hear these clown people talk right now.

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macross1984 t1_j9gzkow wrote

Train derailments are preventable accidents so long as proper maintenance is done. Companies should be either fined or executives jailed for skimping on properly maintaining trains and rails.

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TwoFrontHitters t1_j9h1jo2 wrote

Train derailments today, bridge collapses tomorrow. Not a huge fan of any president really, but at least Biden tried to do something about infrastructure. I drive over the Mississippi river every day and I can't believe the bridge still stands.

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Megaloman71 t1_j9h1qr9 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,907,219)

Yes, the government should. Your neighbor should be regulated if they're moving toxic chemicals adjacent to your property. The idea that people should start a GoFundMe to pay the railroads to properly maintain the rail lines is endorsing blackmail. Society ceases to function if people are allowed to harm others just because the harm is spawned on their own real estate.

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arealhumannotabot t1_j9h3jig wrote

Replying to alabastergrim (#1,906,801)

I don’t wanna make it sound like it doesn’t happen all the time, as in very frequently, but I don’t accept that everything as a cover-up or a distraction. What is this distract him from? People said the balloons were just a distraction from the derailments. So what are they hiding from? Kind of a rhetorical, kind of a serious question.

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litewo t1_j9h7j1r wrote

Mayor Pete silent yet again.

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AwesomeBrainPowers t1_j9h8l28 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,908,360)

That certainly was…a collection of words.

I’m seriously asking you a direct question: How, specifically, would the Secretary of Transportation traveling to Ohio and making a speech have prevented a derailment in Nebraska two weeks later?

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Intelligent-Prune-33 t1_j9hgala wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,907,219)

The government has been getting less and less involved across multiple sectors… and here we are.

Reason being it’s cheaper for big corporations (like Southern Norfolk,) to buy a fucking senator than it is for them to actually maintain a safe rail line.

And these are the assholes you want looking grout for you?

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wasdlmb t1_j9iix03 wrote

Replying to CapitalLongjumping (#1,907,736)

We did. Those are our names now, motherfuckers. Why go to smelly Paris France when you can go to the cultural center of the world, Paris Texas!

(for those of you not in Texas, there is absolutely nothing in Paris TX. We also never refer to it as just "Paris" because even in our state it's completely irrelevant)

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FerociousPancake t1_j9inrwd wrote

Wow maybe those rail guys wanting to do that strike thing actually knew what they were talking about. Oh wowie I’m so surprised. We need change.

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Kiyuri t1_j9irjw2 wrote

Replying to MarchionessofMayhem (#1,911,754)

Speaking of funsies, I've always enjoyed the native American names used for places. Take New York State for example: Cheektowaga, Owego, Oswego, Ostego, Poughkeepsie, Wawayanda, Poospatuck, Chautauqua, etc. They're distinct from any European place names AND fun to say! Also, bonus points if you can pronounce them right.

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Dara84 t1_j9itdra wrote

Replying to StoriesSoReal (#1,906,844)

Also people need to understand that there is a big difference between 30 hazardous material cars flying off the rails near a town and 1 log car having 1 set of wheels "unseated" from the rails. Both of these events would be called derailments.

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Almainyny t1_j9jhajm wrote

Replying to Maltavius (#1,907,040)

Just like how our friends the British stole every word and bit of grammar they liked for their language, we followed in their footsteps and stole every city and place name we liked.

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Phreakiture t1_j9ko0mk wrote

Replying to macross1984 (#1,907,324)

It will go a long way for sure.

It's not a complete answer, though. We also need to improve people's sensibilities around grade crossings. I saw a video last week of a derailment caused by a truck carrying an I-beam stuck at a grade crossing. You can see from the video how abruptly the lead locomotive slowed, and the effect that follows is essentially the same phenomenon as when a trailer jackknifes.

Now, here's where I do have a problem there: with the extremely long trains they've been running, they've been inserting additional locomotives mid-train. If the lead locomotive gets slowed down abruptly by a collision, that mid-train locomotive is going to be still pushing, exacerbating the problem already caused by the weight of all of that train's cargo moving forward.

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